Results: Metro 2033, BF:BC2, Power, and Heat
Hailed as the new Crysis, and feared by many setups, Metro 2033 has redefined FPS visual quality. The internal benchmark was used with Very High presets, no DOF effect, and 4X AA/16X AF enabled.
Under these settings the 560 Ti was unable to run at 2560×1600. It did prove to be quite competitive with the other cards in this roundup, all the while still beating out the aging HD 5870.
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
The Frostbite engine used in this excellent shooter supports DX10 and DX11, though there are no new and interesting effects when enabling DX11. Rather, it optimizes the rendering so that in DX11 mode it offers the same quality of graphics, but increases the performance of the cards. High settings were used, HBOA disabled, with 4X AA/16XAF turned on. A manual runthrough was captured with FRAPS.
Way to lead the pack HAWK! Buck Rogers would be proud!
Hawk approves of this video card!
Heat and Power
Temperatures were taken through the Afterburner application from MSI. The card was left idle for a good 20 minutes for both temp and power draw readings.
The Twin Frozr III continues to impress. Keeping temps in the upper 70s while heavily overclocked is a very nice outcome. The GTX 480 on the other hand could boil water at elevations above 7200 feet.
Power was measured at the wall, so the entire system’s peak wattage is reported.
Well, that is certainly interesting. The 560 Ti has a pretty impressive power draw at load. This is again a heavily overclocked card, but I was surprised by how much more it takes as compared to the HD 6950, and how close it comes to the GTX 480.
this review lacks substance ,
this review lacks substance , compairing only a few cards against the MSI card does not give the reader the ability to make a choice if considering buying this card . Like how does it stack up against a standard 560TI ? Or how does it do against older cards . Thats why I never bother much reading the Reviews at PcPer .
There are some advantages and
There are some advantages and disadvantages for having a whole slew of video cards for comparison, unfortunately the disadvantages start to overwhelm the advantages once the amount of cards starts to increase. The primary issues that we face are that of time, DirectX level, and changes in performance due to driver adjustments and patches to individual applications. As a reviewer I already spend about 20 to 40 hours on a single review, depending on what product it is.
Benchmarking the cards we have takes up most that time. You are probably thinking, "Why not just leave your setup the same so the numbers and driver revisions match?" Some publications do this, unfortunately we have seen some significant advances in performance due to software optimizations that have changed the competitive landscape between manufacturers. A good example of this are some of the latest Catalyst driver revisions which made products like the HD 6950, which upon introduction was slower than products like the GTX 480, suddenly wake up and outperform that card.
So as a balance, I try to pick and choose the competition for any one card based on what I have available, what price points we are looking at, and what seems to have a lot of interest from our readership (via email and forum posts). I also try to make sure they share the same level of DX compliance. Sure, it would be interesting to see how a GTX 285 would compare against a 560 Ti, but then we see an increase in workload to make sure we match up the DirectX settings… which in most cases would disable things like tessellation in the games that utilize it, or optimized DX11 pathways such as in BF:BC2. There just is not a good way to go about this in a timely manner, and things get messy quickly. Btw, a GTX 285 is slower than a GTX 460, while a standard GTX 560 Ti is about 20% faster than the 460… and the MSI 560Ti here is about 7% faster than a stock clocked 560Ti.
We try to cover as best we can the majority of bases, but oftentimes things get left out due to time constraints on our part. Keeping a good balance in reviews is hard, and invariably someone is disappointed in our coverage of a product.
I can understand your point
I can understand your point but if Reviews at PcPer are going to compete with other major players on the web then Your going to have to adapt and add more hardware to compair with the hardware your reviewing. Just look at any of the other major players reviews and you will soon see that Your view point needs to change if if Your ever going to compete with these sites and bring PcPer review up to a top notch site.
As a counterpoint to that, if
As a counterpoint to that, if I offer the same type of review as "the big guys" what do I have that differentiates my writing from theirs? Personally when I go to Tom and Anand’s, and am greeted by graphs that span 20 products, a lot gets skipped over. It really seems like a lot of noise to me, and I know I am not the only one who pays attention for the first couple of graphs… but then just skip over most of the rest. Unlike reviews like HardOCP, who only bench a couple of cards… but bench them very thoroughly and have some really tremendous insights into actual performance in realworld situations.
I try to take a middle approach to those, and offer a good selection of competing products, yet not overwhelming the reader with so much data that the true advantages and disadvantages of a card are lost because of the sheer amount of data being thrown at the reader.
Anonymous can always go
Anonymous can always go elsewhere to get his headache, I love Tom’s and Anand, but overload comes to mind. You guys answered every question about this product and I think I’m buying it since I only have 10.5 inches of space. By the way I’m watching Ryan’s stream crash live on TWIT, love you guys.