Windows RT: Runtime? Or Get Up and Run Time?
Is Windows RT the future of Windows?
Update #1, 10/26/2012: Apparently it does not take long to see the first tremors of certification woes. A Windows developer by the name of Jeffrey Harmon allegedly wrestled with Microsoft certification support 6 times over 2 months because his app did not meet minimum standards. He was not given clear and specific reasons why — apparently little more than copy/paste of the regulations he failed to achieve. Kind-of what to expect from a closed platform… right? Imagine if some nonsensical terms become mandated or other problems crop up?
Also, Microsoft has just said they will allow PEGI 18 games which would have received an ESRB M rating. Of course their regulations can and will change further over time… the point is the difference between a store refusing to carry versus banishing from the whole platform even for limited sharing. The necessity of uproars, especially so early on and so frequently, should be red flags for censorship to come. Could be for artistically-intentioned nudity or sexual themes. Could even be not about sex, language, and violence at all.
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Last month, I suggested that the transition to Windows RT bares the same hurdles as transitioning to Linux. Many obstacles blocking our path, like Adobe and PC gaming, are considering Linux; the rest have good reason to follow.
This month we receive Windows RT and Microsoft’s attempt to shackle us to it: Windows 8.
To be clear: Microsoft has large incentives to banish the legacy of Windows. The way Windows 8 is structured reduces it to a benign tumorous growth atop Windows RT. The applications we love and the openness we adore are contained to an app.
I will explain how you should hate this — after I explain why and support it with evidence.
Microsoft is currently in the rare state of sharp and aggressive focus to a vision. Do not misrepresent this as greed: it is not. Microsoft must face countless jokes about security and stability. Microsoft designed Windows with strong slants towards convenience over security.
That ideology faded early into the life of Windows XP. How Windows operates is fundamentally different. Windows machines are quite secure, architecturally. Con-artists are getting desperate. Recent attacks are almost exclusively based on fear and deception of the user. Common examples are fake anti-virus software or fraudulent call center phone calls. We all win when attackers get innovative: survival of the fittest implies death of the weakest.
Continue reading why we think the Windows you Love is gone…
The WinRT architecture distrusts its users to an extreme end: like Apple, Microsoft removes user control.
WinRT is the layer which forms the basis for Windows RT and Windows 8. Apps designed for WinRT will run anywhere WinRT does. Windows RT will only run WinRT apps and those apps must come from Windows Update or Windows Store. Web apps in Internet Explorer are the only exception.
Again, do not think Microsoft designed Windows RT out of greed. Microsoft supports open web standards even over Silverlight, their platform with a now uncertain future. Security and stability are favored over selling proprietary development tools.
Yes that was Photoshopped… to remove whitespace and make it smaller without scaling.
No UI elements were cut out, just pushed together. The full size image is just as ironic.
It makes sense for Microsoft to slowly end Windows as we know it and transition to Windows RT. Microsoft will never be dependent on a hardware platform again and they can finally shake their insecure stereotype. They certainly seem to be trying.
Removing legacy UI elements enables a less cluttered experience with their new interface. The concern is not that Microsoft removed the Start Menu and boots to the Start Screen. Microsoft did not stop there. Microsoft breaks numerous hacks to restore previous functionality. That extra effort is an attempt to make the past uncomfortable.
Windows Server is even more telling. Windows Server is not a consumer operating system and yet your choice is the “Modern UI”, a telling name to occasionally replace “Metro” with, or Powershell. Visual Studio Express was WinRT-or-bust until developer outcry made Microsoft sweat. Just this week Bill Gates discussed how Windows 8 and Windows Phone platforms are “evolving literally into be(ing) a single platform.” Compare Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8: Windows RT is the middle ground.
Do not be surprised if Microsoft intends to remove the cancer it considers its legacy.
… The Bad and the Ugly
Applications in the Windows store must adhere to strict but not permanent guidelines.
A curated platform is also a censored one. Microsoft will only allow an equivalent of ESRB M for North America or PEGI 16 for Europe. You might feel okay with Windows Store not carrying ESRB AO — like most retailers — but that is not the issue we face. This abolishes content from the platform. European gamers might be worse off as the following games exceed PEGI 16: Bioshock, Dishonored, XCOM, Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, Borderlands 2, The Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and of course Grand Theft Auto. I just name a few.
Again, this is not a refusal to carry in the store. This eradicates content from the platform.
Steam chooses what they carry, not what you carry.
If they don't carry it? GOG.com, Amazon, the author's website, you can make it yourself…
Parental filters are one issue but a strict ban on the basis of sex and violence is a whole other one. It even puts pressure upon censoring sensitive political topics such as same-sex relationships — as allegedly the case with Harvest Moon — and it throws the baby out with the bathwater.
Problems are prevented by discussion and context — not by silence.
The power of art marries societal issues with their consequences. You benefit when art contextualizes the general issues of humanity and that is especially true for an audience in a time of personal struggle. Such as the case of a kidnapping where the captor views the victim as an object instead of a real person, violence is often a result of the dissociation between actions and consequences to a being. Likewise, art helps victims recover through a similar contextualization. Check out ConnectSafely for their discussion about child access to violent media.
Then consider if Microsoft faces pressure to change their mandate and require official ESRB/PEGI rating? Getting told that your content is safe for children is expensive; even worse, those who can pay are less likely interested in art.
Before we stray too far from the topic of certification fees, Xbox Live Arcade developers must pay an estimated $40,000 to validate a single patch.
Not a full game, just a patch.
What if Microsoft decides that Windows cert fees are the burden of the developer? Consider the impact on free or open source software should Microsoft invoice them. If they do on Xbox they can on Windows RT.
Mods are at risk too. Six years ago we faced Games for Windows Live. Mike Capps of Epic said it best: “I think the thing gamers need to worry about right now is that we’re seeing the console mod community coming to the PC — which is that — you cannot ship content to people because Microsoft is afraid of what you might put into it. Right? They are putting a cert process, or considering it, for Games for Windows Live: and that’s scary.”
Is artistic censorship or developer restraint not important enough? Consider a government who demands Microsoft block encryption apps. Well that is really scary. We know Microsoft complies with a law despite its political intent. Why shorten your own leash? If you build censorship, they will come.
A few silly problems: maybe Microsoft eventually wants you to include controller or Kinect support? Maybe your app replicates core functionality? Maybe you gave up your recourse when you entered the walled garden.
Seem fishy, yet?
I fear for users and developers. There will be perpetual problems when Microsoft finally drops the hammer on legacy Windows and closes the platform. The average person stresses, “I am just doing simple things.” Simple is subconsciously defined as what they do: Flash support, Outlook, PowerPoint, the rest of Office, a specific web browser, doing their taxes, a game, or even printing documents. It is all simple until it is found simply impossible.
Then they are stuck.
Keep your options open in case Windows RT becomes Windows. If you truly have simple needs Linux should be dead simple. Most Linux distributions are designed for the simple and typical needs of most users, right from install. You do not need to move immediately or maybe at all. Just consider an action plan and keep it as easy on yourself as possible if Microsoft bares decision day upon you.
Does the mention of Linux remove your confidence that your needs are simple? That might be more reason to consider an open and community-supported platform.
At least then a single company cannot say no.
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na, I was able to use vista
na, I was able to use vista without issue as well. Every user I configed vista for worked fine with no gripes as well.
im skerred of Windows8
im skerred of Windows8 WAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
You mean the makers of
You mean the makers of “Costume Quest” and “Middle Manager of Justice” can’t afford the patch fee? 40k in a multi billion dollar industry is peanuts. It costs me like 600 bucks to buy a full copy of office and I’m just some dude. 40k seems about for the patch. Oh no! The people who invented DirectX are baaad for gamers everywhere! Am I missing something? This is big money MS why is anyone surprised.
Does anyone really think that gamers will be hopping over to ARM processors for their custom frag boxes?
FWIW Apple does almost all of these practices and actually is far more controlling and unreasonable and taxing. You have to take the good with the bad. You mean old, old, old ancient unsafe OS’s are being snubbed out? Great! That’s millions less unsecured PCs online waiting the be hijacked for some BotNet scheme or used to send and distribute viruses. It is common knowledge that Windows 8 is a tablet/mobile OS. Businesses, PC users/computer gamers can sit back and skip this one because its not designed for their uses and MS is smart enough to know nobody cares. Win7 us the greatest OS ever created (IMHO) and the modern hardware to pair it with has a much, much longer lifespan. 8 cores @ 5ghz? 8G’s of ram for 50 bucks? Super Cheap SSDs? Faster GPUs than anyone ever dreamed of.
Let me break it to you: NO ONE IS RUSHING TO LINUX. I am sure I will offend some people, but absolutely nobody (general terms) cares about or is rushing to Linux. Unless MS is issuing patches to brick my copy of Win7 then actually, the Windows I love is here to stay.
“Most Linux distributions are designed for the simple and typical needs of most users, right from install.”
Really? I’ve been gaming/computing for 25+ years and build my own boxes and fix software/hardware issues and I’ve never had a painless install of any version of linux. In my experience it is always buggy, has driver issues, hardware compatibility issues, requires a ton of work to get basic hardware functioning or common file types to even be recognized.
This article is spreading FUD.
1) It’s not just Tim Schafer
1) It's not just Tim Schafer developing software. The point is the precedents that have been set in the past and the potential for the future. I can see open source and hobbyist software getting harmed in one or more of several possible ways.
2) Yeah I have not been on happy terms with Apple for quite some time.
3) So long as people don't screw themselves, give up, and just put up with the crap I am concerned with in my article? Great. Sit back on Windows 7. Upgrade to Windows 8 but don't suck yourself in to "Metro apps". Switch to Linux. Doesn't matter to me. Just so long as Microsoft knows we will not put up with a closed platform.
If Windows stays open/backwards compatible or we switch to an open platform? Either way I'm happy.
4) I was referring to using a PC with Linux installed… because you don't expect a user to install Windows.
Even then: there were also quite a few years (before Vista, which was the first one to be nice to install) where installing Linux was much more user friendly than installing Windows (XP and earlier).
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Once Linux is up and running — which has very rarely been anywhere near as bad as you suggest, except for dial-up modems — if the user truly has simple needs… they probably don't need to do anything. The web browser is there pre-installed. The office software is there pre-installed. There's pretty simple repositories and app stores for users to get a simple app here or there if they want to. If you exceed that you might need to tinker here or there… but at least there's an option to get it running unlike many simple platforms that just say "no" and that's it..
… And the whole point-of-the-point is to show people that "Simple needs" are not to be taken for granted.
There has never been a
There has never been a version of windows that I have loved, there are versions of windows that I can live with, and windows versions I can live without! I can live with #7 but #8 will never have a home on any of my computers! As far as any future windows #, buying any future Microsoft OS will only lead to more M$ foolishness, and the time for the open source OS has come!
To install non Windows Store
To install non Windows Store apps people will have to jailbreak their RT tablets just like iPads. MS has locked down Windows RT tablets. MS also wants to make it difficult for people to run Linux on new Windows 8 computers.
I expect it will be some
I expect it will be some level harder to jailbreak Windows RT than iOS.
Apple tends to be a very complacent company. I mean heck — they used to protect their battery firmware with one of two static and company-wide passwords until after a security researcher showed how malware could wreck havoc.
They also waited for a couple of months to fix the SMS vulnerability because they didn't get around to it.
Not to mention they at least used to wait until they collected a quarter of a gigabyte of patches to bother fixing security vulnerabilities in Mac OSX.
Microsoft has been burned several times about security so I expect they'll at least be more careful. Jailbreaking will still likely happen at some points, but probably not nearly as prevalent as iOS. That's mostly just my prediction though.
I’m not sure how you can make
I’m not sure how you can make it difficult to DBAN a harddisk… or even to disallow GRUB to override/ supercede the windows bootloader… so how are they making it difficult?
Microsoft is getting
Microsoft is getting motherboard manufacturers who want a "Designed for Windows 8" promotional logo to only boot operating systems signed with an encryption key.
The idea is that if a virus messes with Windows bootloader (or anything else that would cause the key to not certify — such as not actually being Windows), it would fail and not boot.
Linux community was concerned because even though it was mandated that you could turn it off, that was one more barrier to installing Linux. It's not really as much of a concern anymore because the Linux Foundation is making their own signed UEFI Secure Boot bootloader.
M$ ? really did you just type
M$ ? really did you just type that?
is this 1997? oh gosh a big bad money making machine… like apple isn’t?
I loved windows NT, 2000, 7
the time for open source OS has come? yea come and gone… see ya bye bye.
This article is way off
This article is way off point, and I don’t thing anyone has anything to worry about. Windows RT is heavily aimed toward the average consumer, and the app store was created to give that average consumer a simple, easy way to find and install applications to their computers. Lets not forget that enterprise is the majority of Microsoft’s business, and Windows 8 Pro is geared toward the enterprise users. Microsoft is not going to cut off the business that brings in most of their revenue. It’s frankly embarrassing to see an article from a tech journalist stating that Microsoft is attempting to screw over the general public.
Microsoft is simply trying to be more like Apple and change the perception people have of the company. Right now, the average person sees Mac’s as hip and cool, while looking at windows as boring. Microsoft is going through a change attempting to make Windows more “hip”, and gain back a huge percentage of market share lost to Apple.
I seriously hope I am either
I seriously hope I am either wrong or I was right and Microsoft changes their minds.
And it is not attempting to screw over the general public… it is attempting to release the product they want.
… to the detriment, haphazardly or intentionally, of the general public.
Can we get this stuff off
Can we get this stuff off PCPer?
Fair enough you have an opinion but you seem to be freaking out over nothing.
So you ask to censor a piece
So you ask to censor a piece about potential censorship?
How many articles have been
How many articles have been typed up about this subject already (on this site and the lenghty discussion in the podcast). You have been beating the horse so much that there is no horse left to beat.
I have started to think this
I have started to think this whole thing was click bate.
Not enough : (
It pains me to
Not enough : (
It pains me to see things like:
– What? Amazon can delete content from your Kindle?
– You mean I don't own my game on OnLive forever?
– Why can Sony remove Linux from the PS3?
You let them by agreeing to their terms of use. It's something you need to think about going forward. That is the nature of closed platforms.
I cant’t see Microsoft
I cant’t see Microsoft forcing people to run apps that are only from there app store.
Look at apple they are pretty wall in when it comes to OSX but even they still allow users to run software not from there app store.
Microsoft hopefully will see what a mess Windows 8 is and give us back what we want. And make the app store a simple program you run like it is in OSX.
Windows 3.1, Windows ME,
Windows 3.1, Windows ME, Vista, Windows RT … what’s in a pattern?
Ok I give you all bar one and that is Vista it rocks as the day I first use it!
it work great from day one for me and most people I know.
it real just bad press and that why everyone said it bad more then anything
and Windows Rt is just dumb as but if it works right it will be where we all end up one day god help us all!
CLICK
CLICK BAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do hope people will switch
I do hope people will switch to linux. No restrictions there, no privacy violations, painfully simple, wide platform support (even games are coming across)
I mean, wake up people. Linux is free. And it’s honest. Why all this nonsense…
If you wont use a companies product, they’ll fall. Simple as that, they will have to take action to drag you back.
Very good article. And I’m
Very good article. And I’m glad someone is writing about this. It may be a bit naive, but maybe this could be just the push a lot of devs and users need to make the switch to open-source. Linux brings new challenges, sure. But the last few years alone have been very good to a lot of distros. Both aesthetically, and technically. For me Linux is the way to go and always has been. I may use Windows a big part of the time for gaming, but using and learning Linux is something I feel good about. My hate for Windows didn’t start with Windows 8. The platform has always been a huge scam to me. But that’s a whole other rant. Haha.
Okay first off.
I wanna say
Okay first off.
I wanna say that I have had the full release of Windows 8 Pro for about 1-2 months, if a little background is needed. I am a IT-supporter, and we got a deal from microsoft to test the real version 2 months prior to release, and so it was possible to make apps for it.
I don’t really get this.. why are people so upset about this?
That microsoft wants to control their app store.
It’s not like they are making it impossible for you to use your computer like you use it everyday. you can install all the games you want and all the applications you want.
The only thing they want to certify is what goes in their app store. it’s just like having your itunes app store or google play on your pc thats all, even apple and google control what’s on their mobile app store.
I just don’t see what’s the problem. please enlighten me.
Yeah I had the RTM version
Yeah I had the RTM version too (actually my laptop or a VM on my PC had all four public builds installed), and I was all set up to make apps for it. It was a couple of days after I installed RTM that I decided I would not support the whole thing at all. I did not want to encourage Microsoft to go down the path they seem to want to go down.
The problem lies with Microsoft wanting to control their app store and that they are acting suspiciously like they want the appstore to be the only way to access content as is the case on Windows RT.
If the appstore is the only way to install applications, then the appstore's requirements (whatever they might be at any given moment in time) are the requirements the applications need to fit to exist.
There could be a bunch of stupid requirements like "All games must have an Xbox Live component."
There could be government requirements like "No encryption" or "The government must certify all apps too." — That's not so much a Western concern but still one to consider globally.
Or there could be pressure from the cert people to prevent sensitive political topics from being discussed, again like same-sex relationships as allegedly happened with Harvest Moon on the Nintendo when it was brought to America, out of fear of political backlash of "what Microsoft lets in the store".
And if Microsoft really doesn't like you, they can pull your dev certificate and you won't be developing anything again.
This is not much of a concern if you view your PC as a tool. This is not much of a concern if you view your PC as an entertainment consumption device. This is frickin' terrifying if you view your PC as an art medium.
You can't even, as it stands now, make something and give it to a friend for them to install on their PC if it doesn't go through cert. (There's work-arounds with development, but yeah)
Don't really look at Windows 8… look at Windows RT and consider the problems that could be faced.
very good article. linux is
very good article. linux is what i use, the only thing we open source developers want is justice. force microsoft to fully open source directx; end of problems forever… not just a public sdk/api… i mean fully open source… back in 1998 or so microsoft was pitching to us that it was closed source for our own good. think of all the hardware we are saving…. yea ok no thanks…
Great article Scott! Thanks
Great article Scott! Thanks for giving me food for thought on the whole Win7 Pro upgrade decision for my PC’s I was facing. I really like the underlying improvements made to Win8 and understand there is software that can bypass the “Metro” crap. Seeing as how Gabe Newell and Steam are being ported to Ubuntu and that Win7 will be supported for years to come I’ll pass on Win8. I’m embarrassed to say how much time I’ve ruminated this year on this whole thing. Have a nice weekend!
Wow. Just Wow. So many linux
Wow. Just Wow. So many linux fanboys and MS haters it is disgusting. Fully Open Source DirectX! Hah! I guess companies do not have a right to make money anymore?
I think the author, Scott, digs his hole deep and deeper the more he responds trying to get to everyone. It is no longer linear this discussion.
Enough with your “There Could Be…” “There Could be…”
That’s not journalism or even helpful, its just speculation.
“Don’t really look at Windows 8… look at Windows RT and consider the problems that could be faced”
Read that to back to yourself Scott.
My fav is….
“again like same-sex relationships as allegedly happened with Harvest Moon on the Nintendo when it was brought to America”
OK rly WTF does this have to do with anything. It’s time to step away from the keyboard man.
It has to do with pressures
It has to do with pressures to change the message of artistic content.
With a closed platform, such as Windows RT, you cannot even share your applications with a limited audience without Microsoft's explicit consent. As such you have content censored for political topics, language, violence, sexuality, and so forth.
So "WTF does that have to do with anything."
It has happened in the past and will continue to happen. An art medium should be based around free (as in speech, not as in beer) and preserved expression. Any time you expose an art platform to censorship it will be used and abused. Pressure through age ratings to censor "sexuality" in North America is one such example.
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Companies can easily make money on open-source platforms. RedHat Enterprise Linux is the obvious example. Samsung, LG, and other TV manufacturers use the Linux Kernel as the basis for their televisions. They used Linux to make money on their TVs… including implementing features that their competitors shared alike.
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"Don't really look at Windows 8… look at Windows RT and consider the problems that could be faced"
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People look at Windows 8 and see the legacy support still there. It is. The point of the editorial is to show how Microsoft: is making moves to deprecate legacy, has incentive to remove legacy, and why that is absolutely terrible from so many perspectives.
Also, that is journalism.
((Also, as you no doubt read from other comments: I really liked Windows 8. I was planning to develop from Windows 8 including switching my main machine over. It was only a couple of months ago that I looked down the path of where Windows was headed and got very uncomfortable. Hope I'm wrong… but if I'm not — and Microsoft doesn't shy away — know that you've been warned.))
Thanks Scott,
This is scary
Thanks Scott,
This is scary but,not surprising.
Hate to state the obvious,
Hate to state the obvious, but if it is as bad as you say then nobody will use it and it will fail. If the point of the article is to discuss how big companies (banks, phone co’s,software, hardware, insurance co’s) have incentives to remove legacy I think that is a bit obvious.
It all about new, new and change or diminish the old. Everyone has been “grandfathered in” with an old plan because new plans change. New iOS updates and now my first gen ipod touch (which works flawlessly) will no longer play netflix and many apps are broken. Car companies, insurance companies all big business follows this model. That you have dissected Microsoft and Windows RT and their nefariousness hopefully we can move on to say, every other major company that does the same thing.
As for using the linux kernel, there are countless for profit, closed systems that use some linux kernal or another.
Still really feels like finger pointing and FUD
As soon as I observed this
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