This just in! We have a 4K TV in the PC Perspective Offices!
While we are still working on the ability to test graphics card performance at this resolution with our Frame Rating capture system, we decided to do a live stream earlier today as we unboxed, almost dropped and then eventually configured our new 4K TV.
The TV in question? A brand new SEIKI SE50UY04 50-in 3840×2160 ready display. Haven't heard of it? Neither have we. I picked it up over the weekend from TigerDirect for $1299, though it actually a bit higher now at $1499.
The TV itself is pretty unassuming and other than looking for the 4K label on the box you'd be hard pressed to discern it from other displays. It DID come with a blue, braided UHD-ready HDMI cable, so there's that.
One point worth noting is that the stand on the TV is pretty flimsy; there was definitely wobble after installation and setup.
Connecting the TV to our test system was pretty easy – only a single HDMI cable was required and the GeForce GTX 680s in SLI we happened to have on our test bed recognized it as a 3840×2160 capable display. Keep in mind that you are limited to a refresh rate of 30 Hz though due to current limitations of HDMI 1.4. The desktop was clear and sharper and if you like screen real estate…this has it.
The first thing we wanted to try was some 4K video playback and we tried YouTube videos, some downloaded clips we found scattered across the Internet and a couple of specific examples I had been saving. Isn't that puppy cute? It was by far the best picture I had seen on a TV that close up – no other way to say it.
We did have issues with video playback in some cases due to high bit rates. In one case we had a YUV uncompressed file that was hitting our SSD so hard on read speeds that we saw choppiness. H.265 save us!
And of course we demoed some games as well – Battlefield 3, Crysis 3, Skyrim and Tomb Raider. Each was able to run at 3840×2160 without any complaints or INI hacks. They all looked BEAUTIFUL when in a still position but we did notice some flickering on the TV that might be the result of the 120 Hz interpolation and possibly the "dynamic luminance control" feature that SEIKI has.
We'll definitely test some more on this in the coming days to see if we can find a solution as I know many PC gamers are going to be excited about the possibility of using this as a gaming display! We are working on a collection of benchmarks on some of the higher end graphics solutions like the GeForce TITAN, GTX 680s, HD 7990 and HD 7970s!
If you want to check out the full experience of our unboxing and first testing, check out the full live stream archived below!!
Hi guys can you run Monitor
Hi guys can you run Monitor Asset Manger from Entech on your screen? here are the results I get.. Does not seem to really be 4k.
Monitor
Model name…………… SE50IY04
Manufacturer…………. SEK
Plug and Play ID……… SEK0000
Serial number………… 1
Manufacture date……… 2013, ISO week 9
Filter driver………… None
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EDID revision………… 1.3
Input signal type…….. Digital (DVI)
Color bit depth………. Undefined
Display type…………. RGB color
Screen size………….. 1100 x 620 mm (49.7 in)
Power management……… Standby
Extension blocs………. 1 (Reserved – 0x00)
————————-
DDC/CI………………. Not supported
Color characteristics
Default color space…… Non-sRGB
Display gamma………… 2.20
Red chromaticity……… Rx 0.650 – Ry 0.330
Green chromaticity……. Gx 0.290 – Gy 0.610
Blue chromaticity…….. Bx 0.150 – By 0.070
White point (default)…. Wx 0.272 – Wy 0.275
Additional descriptors… None
Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range…. 24-60kHz
Vertical scan range…… 50-75Hz
Video bandwidth………. 110MHz
CVT standard…………. Not supported
GTF standard…………. Not supported
Additional descriptors… None
Preferred timing……… Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline…………… “1280×720” 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1……. 1440x900p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline…………… “1440×900” 106.500 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync
Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz – IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz – IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 72Hz – VESA
640 x 480p at 75Hz – VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz – VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz – VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz – VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz – VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz – VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz – VESA
1280 x 960p at 60Hz – VESA STD
Report information
Date generated……….. 4/25/2013
Software revision…….. 2.60.0.972
Data source………….. Real-time 0x0100
Operating system……… 6.1.7601.2.Service Pack 1
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Just ordered one. interested
Just ordered one. interested in lots of follow up. Will u be posting in new articles soon. I dont want to miss it. Thanks for being on the bleeding edge with this early preview.
Coming soon: Lord of the
Coming soon: Lord of the Rings, Extended 4K Edition Trilogy on 24 disks…
I’m seriously considering
I’m seriously considering buying this, but I wouldn’t be able to connect it to my iMac right now and edit. I have a Black Magic 4K camera on preorder and wanted a 4K set to be able to view the final edit. I think the best part about this TV is whatever the shortcomings are, all of the other TV manufacturers know that there is an inexpensive option for all of us. I’m sure that generation 2 of this TV will fix a lot of issues.
So how are you getting this
So how are you getting this TV to work at All ?
I have 2 gtx690s in sli and currently have 2 1080p 47″ in a dual screen setup…
I do a lot of digital design stuff and was absolutely thrilled that these monitors were sub 5 grand and jumped on them …
only to find out I can’t get them to work … 8(
I am currently using the DVI to Hdmi adapters that came with the cards, but I can’t get the Tvs to work at full Rez, not even at 30Hz ..
they are detecting as 720p native rez and I can set them to 1080p but both look fuzzy as its not the true Rez.
What cables or adapters are you using ??
Till Microsoft fix color
Till Microsoft fix color management (or someone create a non-crt sRGB that would fix scrgb issue I dont see the point of getting this .the problem aren’t the screen the problem is black scaling white Scaling and gamma.color .org supply a partial fix black are non scaled or scaled depending on the need. White scale tho is still a problem and I ain’t even started on color precision.if say you got a value of 255 and your screen can only do 252 (all unit after CRT are like this)the scale isn’t in 255 increment within the say 4 to 251 avail range .add percepetual and you get the awfully game image we see
You scanned dvi .its the HDMI
You scanned dvi .its the HDMI supplied you need or better.also this unit is ycbcr.for movie it will need to e set in graphic card at ycbcr 4.2.2 and for game at ycbcr 4.4.4.try getting the ycbcr from seiki or Sony(make sure you use the color profile seiki recommend .do not use scrgb .the sRGB part isn’t fixed yet .get ycbcr from Sony instead (this unit is probably non-srgb)(mean ycbcr)this should avail you with awesome graphic and video quality.
Might need to communicate
Might need to communicate directly with seiki and mention you want to game with this unit they ll say what to do and tweak.might even provide additional software.(write to them in their own language (bing translate)and also in English to make sure there is no misinterpretation.corp usually supply the most basic software but have ton of tweak avail most of the time when asked.
Ok !i think i found how tout
Ok !i think i found how tout fixe the quality issue I have .I all test tonight.basicly the gamma as to be set at GPU to 2.2 !suppodly a linear vs non-linear mathematical issue at improper time(GPU does this the proper way (why do they call a GPU a renderer tho )anyway .if you still have this screen around might want to test this (only game was affected for me )would be nice if you did a short video.keep up the good work pcper crew.
I got this tv yesterday, its
I got this tv yesterday, its pretty sweet but I was back and forth with NVidia and we found out that the tv needs a firmware update that fixes the 120 hz / 120 Fps Flicker Glitch that goes on, seems to also help if u switch to its native resolution at 768p and then delete all made custom resolutions in NVidia settings and then going from 768p to 1080p 120hz it will accept it and seems not glitch as much as far as I Can see now, also if your recording with fraps or action you might want to shut those aps down. It does support 120hz though. But I think a firmware update or driver update or even hdmi 2.0 will maybe fix the flickering / flickering when using fraps or action Im using 1 GTX 660 and planning to do dual sli gtx 660’s to get 60 FPS on 4k, right now im pulling 30FPS steady on 4k with just one gtx 660 2GB. Im also using windows 8 64 bit, Also maybe windows service pack / new windows os might fix this issue who knows. bad that’s the bad part about the tv and if you go to seiki’s firmware section they do NOT firmware upgrade yet, I guess we just have to wait and see. But overall im happy with it. Also there is not much flickering when your gaming. Here is my report on the monitor though
Model name…………… SE50IY04
Manufacturer…………. SEK
Plug and Play ID……… SEK0000
Serial number………… 1
Manufacture date……… 2013, ISO week 9
Filter driver………… None
————————-
EDID revision………… 1.3
Input signal type…….. Digital (DVI)
Color bit depth………. Undefined
Display type…………. RGB color
Screen size………….. 1100 x 620 mm (49.7 in)
Power management……… Standby
Extension blocs………. 1 (Reserved – 0x00)
————————-
DDC/CI………………. Not supported
Color characteristics
Default color space…… Non-sRGB
Display gamma………… 2.20
Red chromaticity……… Rx 0.650 – Ry 0.330
Green chromaticity……. Gx 0.290 – Gy 0.610
Blue chromaticity…….. Bx 0.150 – By 0.070
White point (default)…. Wx 0.272 – Wy 0.275
Additional descriptors… None
Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range…. 24-60kHz
Vertical scan range…… 50-75Hz
Video bandwidth………. 110MHz
CVT standard…………. Not supported
GTF standard…………. Not supported
Additional descriptors… None
Preferred timing……… Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline…………… “1280×720” 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1……. 1440x900p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline…………… “1440×900” 106.500 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync
Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz – IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz – IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 72Hz – VESA
640 x 480p at 75Hz – VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz – VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz – VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz – VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz – VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz – VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz – VESA
1280 x 960p at 60Hz – VESA STD
Report information
Date generated……….. 5/8/2013
Software revision…….. 2.60.0.972
Data source………….. Real-time 0x4600
Operating system……… 6.2.9200.2
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Also Monitor Asset Manager and refresh rate multi tool are helpful tools
I got this tv yesterday, its
I got this tv yesterday, its pretty sweet but I was back and forth with NVidia and we found out that the tv needs a firmware update that fixes the 120 hz / 120 Fps Flicker Glitch that goes on, seems to also help if u switch to its native resolution at 768p and then delete all made custom resolutions in NVidia settings and then going from 768p to 1080p 120hz it will accept it and seems not glitch as much as far as I Can see now, also if your recording with fraps or action you might want to shut those aps down. It does support 120hz though. But I think a firmware update or driver update or even hdmi 2.0 will maybe fix the flickering / flickering when using fraps or action Im using 1 GTX 660 and planning to do dual sli gtx 660’s to get 60 FPS on 4k, right now im pulling 30FPS steady on 4k with just one gtx 660 2GB. Im also using windows 8 64 bit, Also maybe windows service pack / new windows os might fix this issue who knows. bad that’s the bad part about the tv and if you go to seiki’s firmware section they do NOT firmware upgrade yet, I guess we just have to wait and see. But overall im happy with it. Also there is not much flickering when your gaming. Here is my report on the monitor though
Model name…………… SE50IY04
Manufacturer…………. SEK
Plug and Play ID……… SEK0000
Serial number………… 1
Manufacture date……… 2013, ISO week 9
Filter driver………… None
————————-
EDID revision………… 1.3
Input signal type…….. Digital (DVI)
Color bit depth………. Undefined
Display type…………. RGB color
Screen size………….. 1100 x 620 mm (49.7 in)
Power management……… Standby
Extension blocs………. 1 (Reserved – 0x00)
————————-
DDC/CI………………. Not supported
Color characteristics
Default color space…… Non-sRGB
Display gamma………… 2.20
Red chromaticity……… Rx 0.650 – Ry 0.330
Green chromaticity……. Gx 0.290 – Gy 0.610
Blue chromaticity…….. Bx 0.150 – By 0.070
White point (default)…. Wx 0.272 – Wy 0.275
Additional descriptors… None
Timing characteristics
Horizontal scan range…. 24-60kHz
Vertical scan range…… 50-75Hz
Video bandwidth………. 110MHz
CVT standard…………. Not supported
GTF standard…………. Not supported
Additional descriptors… None
Preferred timing……… Yes
Native/preferred timing.. 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline…………… “1280×720” 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Detailed timing #1……. 1440x900p at 60Hz (16:9)
Modeline…………… “1440×900” 106.500 1440 1520 1672 1904 900 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync
Standard timings supported
720 x 400p at 70Hz – IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 60Hz – IBM VGA
640 x 480p at 72Hz – VESA
640 x 480p at 75Hz – VESA
800 x 600p at 60Hz – VESA
800 x 600p at 72Hz – VESA
800 x 600p at 75Hz – VESA
1024 x 768p at 60Hz – VESA
1024 x 768p at 70Hz – VESA
1024 x 768p at 75Hz – VESA
1280 x 960p at 60Hz – VESA STD
Report information
Date generated……….. 5/8/2013
Software revision…….. 2.60.0.972
Data source………….. Real-time 0x4600
Operating system……… 6.2.9200.2
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Also Monitor Asset Manager and refresh rate multi tool are helpful tools
Props on the shirt with
Props on the shirt with Elephants and the ATAT!
would this tv be good for
would this tv be good for playing xbox 360 (without hdmi) on it, or is there a better tv out there for a better deal? please respond
Leo Laporte the Tech Guy just
Leo Laporte the Tech Guy just gave this article a shout out on his radio show! I just might pick this up.
a Nvidia Quadro 600 will run
a Nvidia Quadro 600 will run this at 3840×2160 @30 hz if you make a custom resolution using the Nvidia control panel.
Desktop is a little grainy. However was able to calibrate the display and pull up greyscale images with fairly good contrast ratios.
Can someone identify the
Can someone identify the pixel pitch on this monitor? Guessing 0.27mm range?
Seiki 4K tv as computer
Seiki 4K tv as computer monitor?
I am looking for a large computer monitor to work with Photoshop, Zbrush, Maya, 3D Coat….
It would be great to work with large Maya port views….
My rig???
Processor: Overclocked 4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4930MX (8MB Cache, up to 4.3GHz w/ Turbo Boost)
Operating System: Windows 8, 64-bit, English
Display: 18.4″ WLED FHD (1920 X 1080) TrueLife Display
Memory: 32GB Dual Channel DDR3L at 1600MHz
Dual NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 780M with 4GB GDDR5 – NVIDIA SLI® Enabled
Can you measure the input lag
Can you measure the input lag with a Leo Bodnar device or with the CRT method?
Which 7990 radeon did you use
Which 7990 radeon did you use for the testing?
on the 50 inch Seiki 4k
on the 50 inch Seiki 4k monitor tv how was the image with Blu ray progressive scan it to 4k quality