Desktop SKUs, AIO Push, Missing GT3
On the desktop side, though DIY parts are definitely part of the story, Intel is more focused on the All-in-One (AIO) ecosystem than ever before. As the lone growth market for the desktop products, the changes here are going to be fast.
The enthusiast market, that we usually represent, is a pretty small segment of this graphic which tells you why many of our readers worry about the potential loss of replaceable parts from Intel down the road. We aren't worried about that for the immediate future but the compression of the left side of that data tells the story.
For Haswell, there will be three category of CPUs available. We have the Core i7-4770K, unlocked processor on the test bed today though we will also have mainstream dual-core offerings and even low power S- and T-series options to discuss.
Intel's marketing for Haswell will focus on the upgrade cycle of 5 years and what performance and feature benefits you get as a user or business moving from something like the Core 2 Duo E8400 to a mid-range Core i7-4570S based AIO. I think just about everyone can recognize the benefits of 21x better graphics performance (integrated to integrated) and 9.2x better video processing capability.
Oh, and don't worry, the NUC is coming along for this journey as well! Haswell will be making its way into a new pint-sized machine from Intel in the near future and I'm sure hoping we get a review unit to share with our readers.
There quite a few additional desktop parts being launched today than there were mobile parts, but we'll start with the higher-end offerings. The model numbers and configurations should look very familiar to you if you were an Ivy Bridge user as the highest-end part starts out as the Core i7-4770K with an 84 watt TDP (7 watts higher than Ivy Bridge), quad-core HyperThreaded configuration, top Turbo speed of 3.9 GHz and an 8MB L3 cache. Sounds pretty familiar right? The Core i7-3770K only differed really with the base clock frequency by 100 MHz. Cost will be $339 from Intel.
The rest of the parts in this table all run you $303 but trade off performance and power efficiency. For instance, you could get a 45 watt Core i7-4770T that runs from 2.5 GHz up to 3.7 GHz Turbo or settle for the locked version of the Core i7-4770 at 84 watts and a 3.4 GHz base clock rate.
The Core i5-4600 parts follow a similar pattern – only the unlocked Core i7-4670K costs more than the others with no other differences between it and the $29 less expensive Core i7-4670.
Out the gate, the cheapest Haswell will run you $192 and will come in the form of the Core i5-4570 set that disables HyperThreading on the quad-core variants and limits clock speeds from 3.2 GHz to 3.6 GHz.
You'll probably notice again that the only desktop part that offers support for the Iris 5200 graphics is the Core i7-4770R. That seems find until you realize that part is ONLY being offered as a BGA solution for thin mini-ITX all-in-one combinations. There are no currently planned desktop, LGA1150 GT3 or GT3e Haswell parts, and I think that is a big mistake. Intel is giving DIY enthusiasts and HTPC builders limited options even though there are some better solutions on the table.
Enough of the slides and tables though – let's get to the real hardware we have in our hands!
In every graph 3570K is named
In every graph 3570K is named i7 instead of i5. Damn you copy paste 🙂
so as expected its a big MEH
so as expected its a big MEH
Micro Center has the I7-4770K
Micro Center has the I7-4770K for $279, $70 cheaper than Newegg.
Even better. They dropped
Even better. They dropped the price on the 3770K by $130 to $229.
WTF Newegg/resellers. Have you really been gouging people this long?
Its been that way for a long
Its been that way for a long time if you have a local MicroCenter to pick one up at, otherwise its still ~$320 at most etailers
They are not making any money
They are not making any money at that price. DUH
WOW !
WOW !
I`m going Haswell when Blue
I`m going Haswell when Blue hits.
Also , I saw in other tech sites that the 4770 is not the top performing Haswell chip that will be released.
There will be others with more GPU horsepower ?
I presently have a C2Q 9550
I presently have a C2Q 9550 12 MB L2 cache…would I get much benefit ?
Stepping up from a C2Q 9550
Stepping up from a C2Q 9550 (same chip I have now) to just an i7 920 would be a huge leap, let alone SB being another sizable jump, with the 5% from both Haswell and IB I think it’s safe to say you will see major performance boost even with a 1Ghz OC on that chip you have now.
I haven’t went out to upgrade myself because I was a believer in the Haswell empty promises that wasted my time, but I work with machines that are SB i5’s and they are smoking smooth, quiet, cool, and fast.
I’ve only heard of a lower
I’ve only heard of a lower TDP 65W model that has the eDRAM onboard (flagship iGPU) that is supposed to be comparable to the i7 4770K, but I really don’t see how that is possible.
Anyways, I wouldn’t call anything with more “GPU” power to be a top performer on the 4770K lineup because to be quite honest, nobody buying those chips is looking for the integrated GPU component. They’d probably sell better if they took that space and replaced it with 2 extra cores. People would have far less to bitch about and you’d see performance gains that would give Intel another 4 years of this 5% performance boost before people start bitching about monopoly.
AMD could name their chip
AMD could name their chip SuperDuperIntelKiller and it still wouldn`t be close.
Cinebench 11.5 .
Cinebench 11.5 . multithread
SB->6.8
Ivy->7.01
Haswell -> 7.68
Here is my conclusion:
NOT WORTH IT.
Ivy should be 2x faster than SB.
Haswell should be 4x times faster than SB and 2x Ivy, not a 10% >< Intel thinks we're all idiots or what? It'a all AMD's fault which does not put enough pressure. Period.
LMAO LMAO LMAO, somebody is
LMAO LMAO LMAO, somebody is seriously underestimating, how hard it is to double chip’s performance every year without adding more execution units.
Looks like my 2600k will live
Looks like my 2600k will live in my system for another few years. “YAY! – MY WALLET
Also a follow up to the first
Also a follow up to the first page there is NO Transactional Synchronization Extensions (TSX) in the Core i7 4770K Processor.
Not to sound like a dick, the
Not to sound like a dick, the first page was just a wast of time I’m not a design engineer now if I had access to the equipment I be more then gladly to study the Architecture.
I do know what your talking about though but for the newbie or first timer they wouldn’t have a clue why because your throwing words with no meaning or diagrams to where it’s coming in or going out and what it’s connected to. Long story short I got bored very fast and just wanted to skip the first page all together but didn’t.
In the future don’t throw up shit like this unless you have some sort of diagram to follow, Tom’s Hardware don’t use this and either does HardOCP keep it simple but yet in lighting the read slowly not slide show screen shot’s from IDF.
Second Page well let’s just say I didn’t pay for a $400 Graphics card to be reading about Intel’s GT2 Architecture and Mobile Crap but then again some people are probable interested in this stuff but I doubt anyone that read this website is.
Thanks for the Overkill Review PCPer.
Evelyn. I agree that
Evelyn. I agree that Raymond`s postlng is flabbergasting, yesterday I got a gorgeous Acura after I been earnin $7654 this-last/4 weeks and just over ten k last munth. without a doubt its my favourite-work Ive ever had. I started this six months/ago and practically straight away began to make over $82, per-hr. I use the details here, Bow6.com
Wow. Sort of cool but barely
Wow. Sort of cool but barely evolutionary and nothing crazy new. So glad I bought a beefy 2600k and a sick GB z68. I knew the rumors around haswell were too good to be true. The bottom line of this review should be- “If you are a PC gamer with a fast GPU and an i7. Ignore Haswell altogether.” Honestly did we hit a wall? Is 5GHZ on 8 cores good enuf for anything? I will wait (probably for a long time) for the CPU that starts to crush my 2600k in gaming FPS. Glad to see my investment still giving me returns despite several new CPU releases.
Truth be told: Sandy Bridge was the big leap in gaming CPUs. Everything since then has been extremely underwhelming and incremental. Great review as always guys.
Yup totally agree with you. I
Yup totally agree with you. I have had my 2600k for almost 2 1/2 years and 3 years come march 2014.
It overclocks like a beast and although I moved away from p67 boards to a z77, It is still rocking without worrying.
Not to sound contradiction but I am going to give my 2600k to my son and keep it in the family. I ordered a 4770k and a z87 board and that will be it until there is a huge jump in microprocessors.
Idle power consumption was
Idle power consumption was higher than the 3770 most likely due to the FIVR.
The marketplace and people
The marketplace and people take care of themselves and others.
I have a new rig. Asus
I have a new rig. Asus maximus vi extreme board and ci7 4770k but it wouldnt give any display via hdmi to me. Please help !! The only way i am able to use my desktop new is that i have temporarily installed a hd7770 and using its hdmi output for display.
Thanks in advance. My retailer told me that since its k processor u need a graphics card for display!!?!
@ryan!could you adjust
@ryan!could you adjust message signal interrupt value to one per core per device in the future(if you aren’t already)specificly for CPU with GPU onboard.driver are limited to one interrupt per socket per device.(ya it is limited!but ms suggest one MSI per physical CPU.since now each core are CPU . I feel it isn’t fair for cpu including GPU to ignore this!why I ignore normal GPU?diminishing return.I feel this have a more dramatic impact on Apr like has well or jaguar then on desktop with GPU like a 7970.Ty Ryan
PS:Drivers can register a single InterruptMessageService routine that handles all possible messages or individual InterruptService routines for each message
Ps2:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff544246(v=vs.85).aspx
I7 920 fanatics: the 920 is a
I7 920 fanatics: the 920 is a great cpu of you are gaming, doing Photoshop and other light stuff. If you are doing 3D, video editing and compositing and other heavy stuff, the 4770 will swipe the floor with your 920, in performance and power consumption.
ASUS Maximus Extreme 2.0X
ASUS Maximus Extreme 2.0X Motherboard(X38 Chipset, 2 Gigabit Ethernet NICS Onboard)need 1 each. Send RFQ.