Integrated Voltage Regulator and Overclocking Haswell
Haswell's New IVR
One of the more interesting design changes to Haswell that isn't really a part of the architecture itself is the move to an integrated voltage regulator.
Unlike all previous processors from Intel and AMD, Haswell actually moves the job of legacy power delivery from the PCB of the motherboard directly onto the die of the processor in silicon. This has the advantage of simplifying platform design because now vendors only need to provide a single, clean input voltage to the processor and it handles the rest of the work.
Power to the memory is still handled by the motherboard but otherwise the delivery of voltage to the cores, the processor graphics, the ring bus, IO and the system agent is all handled by a digital power system on Haswell. Intel claims this allows them better flexibility when it comes to designing lower power processors and platforms that find their way into tablets and also can provide more granular power delivery for better power management and sleep states.
For motherboard engineers though, this was kind of a bummer – one of the key differentiation points for motherboard design was in power delivery, phase technology and topology. By moving so much of that into the processor and on silicon Intel is effectively taking away one of the few remaining areas for motherboards competitors to…compete on. Remember when memory controllers and performance would vary motherboard to motherboard? Another one bites the dust.
Overclocking with Haswell
Overclocking with Haswell is very similar to overclocking with Ivy Bridge with the addition of a new control point for base clock ratios.
If you remember when Sandy Bridge-E launched, Intel had figured out a way to allow base clock ratio increases to steppings of 125 MHz, 166 MHz and 250 MHz; though the 250 MHz option is obviously a pipe dream. With Haswell that same option makes it way to mainstream consumer processors, at least for the K-series parts that is. One contentious point during our briefings with Intel was why they would lock that ratio on the other processors now that the problem has been solved. (Keep in mind that Intel claimed they couldn't TECHNICALLY enable base clock ratios on SNB or IVB without stability issues.)
Otherwise though, overclocking Haswell is the same as Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge though with some additional care to the voltages. Things have changed as you are now controlling an input voltage (the one we actually going from the motherboard to the processor) and then voltages on the integrated voltage regulator. Base clock, ratios – it's all there.
Looking at the new UEFI on the Intel Z87 motherboard (which is actually really nice!), we see a handful of new settings. The first voltage option we'll consider is the core voltage that allow us to reach higher clocks either through a fixed multiplier or Turbo ratios. There are three different options for that voltage, which is likely the most important setting, so Intel provided these three diagrams to demonstrate.
The offset mode applies a positive or negative offset to the voltage over the entire voltage curve that is natively built into the Haswell CPU. This means voltages will be higher at idle, higher during Turbo and higher during the non-Turbo clock states.
An interpolated mode allows the voltage to scale only after it gets past the standard, default Turbo voltages.
Finally, the static and offset mode sets the voltage a fixed level through the entire performance curve. This is helpful if you are underclocking as well as overclocking with the base clock.
The second main voltage to adjust is the input voltage, the one coming in to the IVR. The default of this ranges from 1.7v to 1.8v depending on the SKU. Because the input voltage is related to the maximum voltage that the IVR can output to the cores, graphics, ring bus, etc, you may have to bump this up as you increase the other voltage rails.
This is where you can adjust the base clock ratio for higher base clock settings while keeping the PCIe and DMI frequencies in their safe zones.
5:5 (default) (i.e. BCLK 100: PCIe 100)
4:5 (BCLK 125:PCIe100)
3:5 (167:100)
2:5 (250:100)
Each motherboard will have different settings but it was recommended to us to disable features like Processor VR Faults and Processor VR Efficiency to get a more stable overclock at higher settings.
Adjusting the multiplier for the cores is simple enough and you should be in the normal range of the low to mid 40s. Intel recommends keeping the ring bus multiplier level at one lower than the cores.
Our Early Overclocking Results
I should be upfront here and just let everyone know the truth: Haswell doesn't overclock as well as SNB or IVB and it gets significantly hotter. In any event, we needed to see for ourselves how high we could push the part we had.
The best speed I could hit was 4.6 GHz on all cores with these settings:
- 100 MHz base clock
- 46x Core multiplier
- 45x Ring multiplier
- +100 mV ring voltage
- +200 mV core voltage
Based on my talks with other reviewers and hardware vendors, this is pretty typical and only very few processors are hitting the 4.8 GHz mark.
In our performance graphs on the following pages we'll show you a consistent Haswell running at stock speeds as well as the same chip running at 4.5 GHz – obviously performance is going to be better. But how does overclocking affect temperature and power consumption?
I should note that for our testing we used the Corsair H100i, a 240mm self-contained water cooler that is among the best on the market.
Temps at stock settings
Temps at 4.1 GHz
Temps at 4.3 GHz
Temps at 4.5 GHz
Temps at 4.6 GHz
There is a steady progression of temperature as we increase the clock speed and the jump from 4.5 GHz to 4.6 GHz was…bad. Seeing temperatures hover in the 90+C range is dangerous and caused the fans on the H100i to get quite loud too.
WOW. Load power consumption jumps from 127 watts on the Core i7-4770K at default settings up to 201 watts when overclocked to 4.5 GHz – that is an increase of 75 watts. For comparison, that is higher than the Core i7-3970X that uses 6 cores that are more power hungry and nearly hits the same power consumption levels of the AMD FX-8350. (Actually, that's just as bad for AMD's FX-series).
Enthusiasts lamented the fact that overclocking got easier but didn't scale better when Intel moved from Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge, and the same thing has occurred again with Haswell. Clearly Intel's focus on lower power designs has limited higher clock rates and expanded leakage on the high end. These are the cards we are dealt.
In every graph 3570K is named
In every graph 3570K is named i7 instead of i5. Damn you copy paste 🙂
so as expected its a big MEH
so as expected its a big MEH
Micro Center has the I7-4770K
Micro Center has the I7-4770K for $279, $70 cheaper than Newegg.
Even better. They dropped
Even better. They dropped the price on the 3770K by $130 to $229.
WTF Newegg/resellers. Have you really been gouging people this long?
Its been that way for a long
Its been that way for a long time if you have a local MicroCenter to pick one up at, otherwise its still ~$320 at most etailers
They are not making any money
They are not making any money at that price. DUH
WOW !
WOW !
I`m going Haswell when Blue
I`m going Haswell when Blue hits.
Also , I saw in other tech sites that the 4770 is not the top performing Haswell chip that will be released.
There will be others with more GPU horsepower ?
I presently have a C2Q 9550
I presently have a C2Q 9550 12 MB L2 cache…would I get much benefit ?
Stepping up from a C2Q 9550
Stepping up from a C2Q 9550 (same chip I have now) to just an i7 920 would be a huge leap, let alone SB being another sizable jump, with the 5% from both Haswell and IB I think it’s safe to say you will see major performance boost even with a 1Ghz OC on that chip you have now.
I haven’t went out to upgrade myself because I was a believer in the Haswell empty promises that wasted my time, but I work with machines that are SB i5’s and they are smoking smooth, quiet, cool, and fast.
I’ve only heard of a lower
I’ve only heard of a lower TDP 65W model that has the eDRAM onboard (flagship iGPU) that is supposed to be comparable to the i7 4770K, but I really don’t see how that is possible.
Anyways, I wouldn’t call anything with more “GPU” power to be a top performer on the 4770K lineup because to be quite honest, nobody buying those chips is looking for the integrated GPU component. They’d probably sell better if they took that space and replaced it with 2 extra cores. People would have far less to bitch about and you’d see performance gains that would give Intel another 4 years of this 5% performance boost before people start bitching about monopoly.
AMD could name their chip
AMD could name their chip SuperDuperIntelKiller and it still wouldn`t be close.
Cinebench 11.5 .
Cinebench 11.5 . multithread
SB->6.8
Ivy->7.01
Haswell -> 7.68
Here is my conclusion:
NOT WORTH IT.
Ivy should be 2x faster than SB.
Haswell should be 4x times faster than SB and 2x Ivy, not a 10% >< Intel thinks we're all idiots or what? It'a all AMD's fault which does not put enough pressure. Period.
LMAO LMAO LMAO, somebody is
LMAO LMAO LMAO, somebody is seriously underestimating, how hard it is to double chip’s performance every year without adding more execution units.
Looks like my 2600k will live
Looks like my 2600k will live in my system for another few years. “YAY! – MY WALLET
Also a follow up to the first
Also a follow up to the first page there is NO Transactional Synchronization Extensions (TSX) in the Core i7 4770K Processor.
Not to sound like a dick, the
Not to sound like a dick, the first page was just a wast of time I’m not a design engineer now if I had access to the equipment I be more then gladly to study the Architecture.
I do know what your talking about though but for the newbie or first timer they wouldn’t have a clue why because your throwing words with no meaning or diagrams to where it’s coming in or going out and what it’s connected to. Long story short I got bored very fast and just wanted to skip the first page all together but didn’t.
In the future don’t throw up shit like this unless you have some sort of diagram to follow, Tom’s Hardware don’t use this and either does HardOCP keep it simple but yet in lighting the read slowly not slide show screen shot’s from IDF.
Second Page well let’s just say I didn’t pay for a $400 Graphics card to be reading about Intel’s GT2 Architecture and Mobile Crap but then again some people are probable interested in this stuff but I doubt anyone that read this website is.
Thanks for the Overkill Review PCPer.
Evelyn. I agree that
Evelyn. I agree that Raymond`s postlng is flabbergasting, yesterday I got a gorgeous Acura after I been earnin $7654 this-last/4 weeks and just over ten k last munth. without a doubt its my favourite-work Ive ever had. I started this six months/ago and practically straight away began to make over $82, per-hr. I use the details here, Bow6.com
Wow. Sort of cool but barely
Wow. Sort of cool but barely evolutionary and nothing crazy new. So glad I bought a beefy 2600k and a sick GB z68. I knew the rumors around haswell were too good to be true. The bottom line of this review should be- “If you are a PC gamer with a fast GPU and an i7. Ignore Haswell altogether.” Honestly did we hit a wall? Is 5GHZ on 8 cores good enuf for anything? I will wait (probably for a long time) for the CPU that starts to crush my 2600k in gaming FPS. Glad to see my investment still giving me returns despite several new CPU releases.
Truth be told: Sandy Bridge was the big leap in gaming CPUs. Everything since then has been extremely underwhelming and incremental. Great review as always guys.
Yup totally agree with you. I
Yup totally agree with you. I have had my 2600k for almost 2 1/2 years and 3 years come march 2014.
It overclocks like a beast and although I moved away from p67 boards to a z77, It is still rocking without worrying.
Not to sound contradiction but I am going to give my 2600k to my son and keep it in the family. I ordered a 4770k and a z87 board and that will be it until there is a huge jump in microprocessors.
Idle power consumption was
Idle power consumption was higher than the 3770 most likely due to the FIVR.
The marketplace and people
The marketplace and people take care of themselves and others.
I have a new rig. Asus
I have a new rig. Asus maximus vi extreme board and ci7 4770k but it wouldnt give any display via hdmi to me. Please help !! The only way i am able to use my desktop new is that i have temporarily installed a hd7770 and using its hdmi output for display.
Thanks in advance. My retailer told me that since its k processor u need a graphics card for display!!?!
@ryan!could you adjust
@ryan!could you adjust message signal interrupt value to one per core per device in the future(if you aren’t already)specificly for CPU with GPU onboard.driver are limited to one interrupt per socket per device.(ya it is limited!but ms suggest one MSI per physical CPU.since now each core are CPU . I feel it isn’t fair for cpu including GPU to ignore this!why I ignore normal GPU?diminishing return.I feel this have a more dramatic impact on Apr like has well or jaguar then on desktop with GPU like a 7970.Ty Ryan
PS:Drivers can register a single InterruptMessageService routine that handles all possible messages or individual InterruptService routines for each message
Ps2:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff544246(v=vs.85).aspx
I7 920 fanatics: the 920 is a
I7 920 fanatics: the 920 is a great cpu of you are gaming, doing Photoshop and other light stuff. If you are doing 3D, video editing and compositing and other heavy stuff, the 4770 will swipe the floor with your 920, in performance and power consumption.
ASUS Maximus Extreme 2.0X
ASUS Maximus Extreme 2.0X Motherboard(X38 Chipset, 2 Gigabit Ethernet NICS Onboard)need 1 each. Send RFQ.