As a follow up to our first video posted earlier in the week that looked at the A10-7850K and the GT 630 from NVIDIA in five standard games, this time we compare the A10-7850K APU against the same combination of the Intel and NVIDIA hardware in five of 2013's top free to play games.
UPDATE: I've had some questions about WHICH of the GT 630 SKUs were used in this testing. Our GT 630 was this EVGA model that is based on 96 CUDA cores and a 128-bit DDR3 memory interface. You can see a comparison of the three current GT 630 options on NVIDIA's website here.
If you are looking for more information on AMD's Kaveri APUs you should check out my review of the A8-7600 part as well our testing of Dual Graphics with the A8-7600 and a Radeon R7 250 card.
Yet another bullshit
Yet another bullshit comparison, if you need to use DDR3 2400 to get decent performance, it’s more expensive than the Intel system.
Ram prices have shifted a
Ram prices have shifted a lot..
8GB DDR3 2400 1-13-13-35 – $69.99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455 – 8GB DDR3 1866 9-10-9-28 – $82.99
The timings are not far apart either.
And this was just my ten second -look-.
2400mhz ram doesn’t cost as much as it used to.
Theres honestly no reason at all in any situation to not buy the highest speed ram that your system supports. The extra ten-twenty bucks for the performance gains are a no brainer.
And you don’t need 16gb of 2400mhz either, 8 is a sweet spot I’ve discovered for APU builds. Having that doubled won’t do much for performance in any gaming situation I’ve tested.
Do Planetside 2. It’s a
Do Planetside 2. It’s a free-to-play titles and is really demanding. i would love to see which setup would win. I can already say the i3 most likely. PS2 is really CPU demanding.
it seems like the GT630 was
it seems like the GT630 was picked to keep prices similar but this is skewed.
An even test would have done the number of cores, so AT LEAST a 640, possibly 650.
Clearly with the 630 you’re going to underperform.
WHY is PC Per teting like this?
That GT 630 is a now ancient
That GT 630 is a now ancient Fermi GPU with 3 SMs (96 cores).
You should benchmark against the cheap GT 635 or 630 Rev 2. (Kepler GK208 with a narrow bus) or a GT 640 Rev 2.
Actually the Kepler based GT
Actually the Kepler based GT 630 performs lower than the Fermi based GT 630.
This is such a shameless
This is such a shameless advertisement…
And that would be okay, they have to make money somehow, I’m just not sure that referring to an average of 30 fps at low settings as ‘great gaming performance’ is something you want to do if you want to be perceived as a serious source of any kind of information.
Agreed. Even though it is
Agreed. Even though it is impressive for an apu.
i use this GPU with my 1.8GHz
i use this GPU with my 1.8GHz dual cored processor (9 years old)
and i play modern games at high graphics in 60fps
can you give us price specs
can you give us price specs on the 2 systems?
are they similar?
I’d like to see kaveri up against the intel iris GT3
Should have used pentium
Should have used pentium g3220+gtx 650.
The I3 is too pricey, and not every game uses its hyper threading. And the gt630 is too weak. Nobody buys that kind of gpu nowdays expecting good gaming performance.
I like this idea, but I feel
I like this idea, but I feel like an i3-3240 (3.4GHz IvyB, LGA1155) is a better swapout. Newegg is selling Gigabyte Z77 motherboards at steep discounts, too. As of February 3, 2014 on Newegg:
Kaveri A10-7850K, $185
MSI A88XM-E45 motherboard, $73
MSI R7 250 2GD3 OC (2GB), $90
CPU+MOBO+GPU = $348
Ivy Bridge i3-3240, $120 (-65)
Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H 1155 motherboard, $90 (+17)
Gigabyte GV-N65TOC-2GI 650Ti (2GB), $150 (+60)
CPU+MOBO+GPU = $360 (+12)
The same Mushkin Blackline DDR3 2400 2x4GB kit ($80) would work for both, and the Gigabyte Z77 board would be able to use some of that speed. The Intel chips are one generation old, but everybody says the main difference between IvyB and Haswell is in power consumption, and they’re still common. You could save money and increase variety by choosing a B75 motherboard; I chose not to.
The difference between a $835 and a $823 fresh-start system (<2%) makes for a VERY fair GPU fight. Both motherboards have overclocking features, neither GPU has a reference cooler; with the same RAM (Mushkin) and SSD (Samsung 250GB, $180), that'd be a fun shootout.
Thinking harder about this,
Thinking harder about this, the crux of the AMD APU system is upgrade path; there isn’t one. This is the FASTEST FM2+ processor on the market. If you want to go faster, you have to spend $200 on an R9 270, and then a bigger PSU to go with it. And that’s the last upgrade that system will ever make, unless they come out with a 4.5GHz 6-core FM2+ CPU with no on-die graphics.
For $190, you could have a GTX 660 OR an i5-3470, which would put you in a very different horsepower class, depending on which YOUR game needs. Again, new power supply, but actually less PSU than the Kaveri+R9 needs. There’s probably enough residual value in the component you’re replacing to actually buy the upgrade PSU. You can go all the way to an i5-3570K on that board and as much GTX or Radeon GPU as you want to buy…Paying for Intel buys you room to grow.
Hello from Fr,
I want to know
Hello from Fr,
I want to know if it’s better to buy APU A10-7850k or FX 6300 and MSI R9 270 hawk edition.