Power Consumption and Conclusions
So with performance that is within 5-10% of the AMD Radeon R7 260X, but well behind that of the upcoming R7 265, one key advantage of GM107 is supposed to be power consumption. Let's take a look at our results.
The GeForce GTX 750 Ti is the most power efficient GPU tested here today. Drawing just 184 watts in the whole test system, the GM107 GPU is using 31 watts less power than the rival product, the R7 260X. If you consider the performance advantage that the GTX 750 Ti has, up to 10% in a couple cases, the dramatic power delta is definitely a technical achievement for NVIDIA. The R7 265 though, drawing only 10 watts more than the R7 260X, is putting up some impressive performance numbers too.
Performance and Features
The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti is an interesting product. If you look just at the performance numbers and consider no other aspects of these products, the GM107-based GPU is not really a stand out piece of hardware. It is able to outperform the Radeon R7 260X 2GB card by 0-10% depending on the game, but at a $10 price premium. With AMD's timely release of early reviews on the Radeon R7 265, the GTX 750 Ti has another problem as the larger, more power hungry Pitcairn based AMD product is clearly the performance leader. If pricing stands where it is today, and that is something that is clearly up in the air for most of AMD's Radeon product line, then the GTX 750 Ti would be a second place finisher to the more powerful R7 265; at least for gamers that are interesting solely in game performance.
Of course, there are lot of other factors to consider with cards in this price range. Power consumption clearly favors the GeForce GTX 750 Ti and the lack of a requirement for an external power connection (on the reference model at least) means that users in constrained areas like home theater boxes or even Steam Machines may find value in the GM107.
The GTX 750 Ti, even in the reference form, is also much quieter than the R7 265 and R7 260X cards we have been testing. Again, for users in certain environments or sound sensitive use cases, that will push buyers to lean towards the NVIDIA option.
Pricing and Availability
The big sticking point here for this story is pricing and availability. I fully expect the GeForce GTX 750 Ti to be available today for the MSRP of $149. The Radeon R7 260X 2GB cards are currently for sale for $139 at Amazon.com and Newegg.com. The wildcard is the availability of the Radeon R7 265 for the MSRP of $149.
Why are we worried? Check out the prices of the R9 270 that is SUPPOSED to be selling for $179: Newegg.com at $239 and up, Amazon.com at $229 and up. The R7 265 is so similar in architecture to the R9 270, I see no reason why this price different wouldn't occur this time as well. Whether it be from GPU shortages or coin mining crazies, the R7 265 is likely to be going for MORE than the $149 AMD wants it to.
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB – $199
- AMD Radeon R7 265 2GB – $149 (MSRP)
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti – $149
- AMD Radeon R7 260X 2GB – $139
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti – $125
And if it does, every dollar increase makes the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti look a tiny bit better.
Final Thoughts
NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 750 Ti brings the Maxwell architecture to the world for the first time and is an exceptional demonstration of the power efficiency of this new design. Though launching with a mainstream product instead of the standard enthusiast class graphics card, NVIDIA's attempt to target the high volume market with GM107 is likely as much due to technical reason as it is business or marketing. Using the same 28nm process technology as the previous generation of GPUs isn't ideal and working on a smaller, higher yield piece of silicon helps make sure they have as little risk as possible.
Had the GTX 750 Ti released just a couple of weeks ago before the announcement of the AMD Radeon R7 265, and before the sudden price changes it supposedly brought, the results would have been even stronger in NVIDIA's favor. Performance would have been more directly advantageous and we wouldn't have had to present many caveats between the comparisons. As it stands now NVIDIA's new mainstream baby is a great product that has a lot of advantages in power, noise and technology, but one that can't claim a dominant performance lead.
So, obvious first
So, obvious first question:
Any improvements in scrypt performance w/ Maxwell? 😉
There is some, but not a
There is some, but not a whole lot. We are looking at doing some testing today on the currency applications but the lack of optimization could be a hold off.
Thanks Ryan, can’t wait for
Thanks Ryan, can’t wait for your results!
Oh, the simple days when one could choose a GPU based on its game performance … I don’t miss them, not one bit.
http://cryptomining-blog.com/
http://cryptomining-blog.com/922-the-new-nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti-scrypt-mining-performance/
Not much in the way of graphs or pages of analysis but 265 KH/s and about 300 KH/s overclocked. Of course they were probably limited in the same way Ryan was when overclocking.
Thanks for the link, 265 kH/s
Thanks for the link, 265 kH/s at (or below) 75W don’t seem half bad!
Any chance this card supports
Any chance this card supports hdmi 2.0? is there anything coming out soon that will?
Just confirmed that the
Just confirmed that the GeForce GTX 750 Ti does NOT have HDMI 2.0. They won't talk about future products though…
Are you comparing it to a
Are you comparing it to a plain 650 Ti or a 650 Ti Boost in the article/benchmarks?
This is the NON Boost GPU.
This is the NON Boost GPU. The GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost is EOL so I didn't think it should get in over the still available GTX 650 Ti.
Yes, but I was interested
Yes, but I was interested since I purchased the 650 Ti Boost and looking at the Non Boost versus the Boost 650 Ti it looks like the 750 Ti isn’t much over the 650 Ti Boost. (From an upgrade and price/performance perspective.)
Power consumption is nice to see, but not too much concern in a 650 Ti or 750 Ti size card, more of an interesting when the bigger cards come out.
If they did not EOL the 650 Ti Boost the comparison/benchmark charts comparing it to the 750 Ti would look a little weird I think.
Maxwell 2nd level high end
Maxwell 2nd level high end should be very interesting. I’m hoping for Titan Black performance at $500 and 200 watts.
I have a couple of
I have a couple of questions.
Is it absolutely certain that if this card had a dp output that it would support g-sync? or is that an assumption at this point?
When overclocking, does the mem or gpu clock increase affect the performance more?
Finally, do you have the power numbers on the overclock?
Thanks.
G-Sync support is confirmed
G-Sync support is confirmed yes, as long as a DP connection is present.
GPU clock definitely affects the perf more.
Ah, I didn't make a graph of power under the overclock! But power jumped from 184 watts to 202 watts (full system).
Hmm, I find it interesting
Hmm, I find it interesting that it scaled down so well when the Kepler architecture did not (with power consumption) I am really wondering how it scales into enthusiast territory considering these tweaks improved mainstream so much.
“One feature that the GTX 650
“One feature that the GTX 650 Ti card does NOT have is support for SLI which is quite disappointing.”
I believe you meant the “750”
Thanks, fixed!
Thanks, fixed!
Ryan, long time viewer here.
Ryan, long time viewer here. Great intro into maxwell. I just wish you guys still included bar graphs because the line graphs can be hard to compare one card to another if there is only say a ten or twenty percent difference .
I have had this feedback a
I have had this feedback a few times. We are going to integrate that again soon.
http://cdn.pcper.com/files/im
http://cdn.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/review/2014-02-17/gpuz.png
Ryan, please update this with GPU-Z 0.7.7. It reports the GM107 specs correctly.
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2340/techpowerup-gpu-z-v0-7-7/
Done!
Done!
http://www.geforce.com/whats-
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-geforce-334-89-whql-drivers-released
Would this card be an
Would this card be an improvement over my 2 560Tis, or should I wait for the next Maxwell cards?
No, if you are running 560
No, if you are running 560 Ti's in SLI, I would wait.
Would this card be a good
Would this card be a good improvement over a single 560ti card?
Would I be better trying to get a second 560 for sli?
Would this card be an upgrade
Would this card be an upgrade from my GTX 260?
forgot to post my PC
forgot to post my PC specs:
Operating System:
Windows 2.6.1.7601 (Service Pack 1)
CPU Type:
Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU @ 2.66GHz
CPU Speed:
2.69 GHz
System Memory:
8.59 GB
Video Card Model:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Video Card Memory:
4.27 GB
Video Card Driver:
nvd3dum.dll
Desktop Resolution:
1680×1050
Hard Disk Size:
492.68 GB
Hard Disk Free Space:
235.47 GB (48%)
Download Speed:
1.49 MB/s (11.9 mbps)
forgot to post my PC
forgot to post my PC specs:
Operating System:
Windows 2.6.1.7601 (Service Pack 1)
CPU Type:
Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU @ 2.66GHz
CPU Speed:
2.69 GHz
System Memory:
8.59 GB
Video Card Model:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Video Card Memory:
4.27 GB
Video Card Driver:
nvd3dum.dll
Desktop Resolution:
1680×1050
Hard Disk Size:
492.68 GB
Hard Disk Free Space:
235.47 GB (48%)
Download Speed:
1.49 MB/s (11.9 mbps)
hi so im looking into a $500-
hi so im looking into a $500- $600 maybe a little more and was wondering if i should get this card or should i wait for the amd r7 265?
Ryan how do you make those
Ryan how do you make those “FPS by Percentile” charts in Excel? I’d like to do the same on my own, using fraps
Thanks
Any Cuda testing like Blender
Any Cuda testing like Blender Rendering? Would be nice to see performance improvements from Computing side.
I don’t agree with your
I don’t agree with your remarks Mr. Shrout. In the Skyrim, Metro Last Light and Bioshock Infinite graphs, 750 ti’s frame latency rises higher than 260x in the frame time variance graphs while they are at a clear tie in Crysis 3 and Battlefield 4. You also did not comment on the frame spikes in Bioshock.
So what would you say 570 or
So what would you say 570 or 750?
Looking to make a Dell
Looking to make a Dell OptiPlex 780 SFF into a Steambox. The system accepts upto 16gb ddr3 (4x4gb sticks), It is currently running a q6700 core2quad (95w). I have been looking at using this card, however the psu is 234 watts. The 12v rail though is 17A so assuming looking at 204 watts for the motherboard, ram, video card and cpu fan. The only other components hooked in are a bluray laptop drive and a 320gb 5400rpm 2.5 hdd from a chromebook underneath it. I did a live talk with dell and confirmed that they sell a hd 7750 1gb ddr3 video card for it you can order and add. So my question is, would a q6600 bsel modded to 3ghz, 2x4gb sticks of ddr3 and a gtx 750ti with that bluray drive and hdd work? If not I have a E8400 CPU I can use instead which would reduce the wattage down by 30watts since its rated 65 instead of 95.