Power Consumption, Perf per Dollar, Closing Thoughts
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Power Consumption Testing
Power testing was done with the discrete graphics card installed, but idle. Cinebench 11 was used to get our CPU load values, but all measurements are for the full system.
At idle, Haswell-E and X99 use no more power than Haswell and Z97, so that's a good sign. But look at this load result! The Core i7-5960X system draws just 169 watts from the wall, nearly identical in power draw when compared to Ivy Bridge-E and more than 20 watts less than Sandy Bridge-E. The power consumption gap between the 4790K (with 4 cores) and the 5960X (with 8 cores) is only 14 watts. Considering this is a multi-threaded benchmark application running, this is about as "bad" as the difference will get between these parts. Oh, and it's still 30 watts lower than the AMD FX-8350, for what that's worth.
By utilizing tri-gate transistors and Intel's 22nm process technology, HSW-E is able to pack in a metric tonne of performance in a power envelope that essentially remains unchanged from previous generations.
Performance per Dollar
One thing we wanted to take into consideration with this review is the idea of performance per dollar. To get some interesting data I selected three benchmarks (7zip, Cinebench 11 and x264 v5.0) and included current pricing from Newegg.com (or Amazon if out of stock on Newegg).
The projected MSRP of the Core i7-5960X is a staggering $999. But I am going to go with $1049 as the standard markup for these parts at launch is usually AT LEAST that much.
Okay so this was basically a setup. We knew the Core i7-5960X wasn't going to win any awards when it comes to performance per dollar; no Extreme Edition processor has ever done that. Maybe we'll be able to get our hands on both the Core i7-5930K and the Core i7-5820K to see how they fare – I imagine it will be much better.
Closing Thoughts
There are a lot of directions to go with the conclusion to this review. But let's start here: the Intel Core i7-5960X is easily the fastest consumer processor we have ever had in our hands. With eight Haswell processing cores, and the ability to handle 16 threads at the same time, this CPU is able to cut through multi-threaded applications like a hot knife through butter. While some users might have been lurking around hoping that Intel would release a 10-core version of Haswell-E under the Core brand, that doesn't appear to be in the cards for now. Still, no one that installs this CPU in a brand new X99 motherboard is going to be disappointed with performance, I can guarantee you that.
Core i7-5960X, Core i7-4960X, AMD FX-6300, Core i7-4790K
Without hard numbers, it's hard to be completely certain, but I really like the prospects of both the Core i7-5930K and Core i7-5820K Haswell-E processors. In previous E-class generations the x820 part was limited to quad core which essentially put it on the same performance level as the standard version of that generation of CPU. With HSW-E though the 5820K will get a 50% core boost over Haswell parts, with 6 cores and 12 threads of compute. For $389, plus the cost of DDR4 and an X99 motherboard, you'll be getting a definite upgrade over Haswell and the move from 16 lanes of PCIe to 28 lanes will enable multi-GPU + PCI Express SSD upgrades down the road.
If you had to pick one area other than price that the Core i7-5960X has issues, it's in the single threaded department. With a limited clock speed range of 3.0 GHz to 3.5 GHz, even the updated Haswell microarchitecture isn't enough to prevent those kinds of frequencies from standing out. Just take a look at the recently launched Devil's Canyon Core i7-4790K Haswell part. It has a base clock speed of 4.0 GHz and a Turbo speed rated at 4.4 GHz. That's nearly a 1.0 GHz advantage over its much more expensive brethren. Several of our benchmarks showed this clearly: Cinebench 11 (single thread) and even Handbrake 0.9.8 show limited to reverse scaling on the new Haswell-E CPU. As a buyer, if you need the absolute PEAK single threaded performance, the Core i7-5960X isn't for you.
But for just about everyone else, the Core i7-5960X is nearly impossible to beat. Add to raw performance the fact that you get access to DDR4 memory before anyone else, 40 lanes of PCI Express 3.0 and X99 motherboards that can support ten SATA 6G connections, Thunderbolt, six USB 3.0 ports and 4-Way SLI/CrossFire (all board implementation dependent of course) and you have a compelling package. Tighten that belt though as it won't come cheap. Turn the A/C back a few degrees for the rest of the summer and save up as you'll need some cash to invest in a $1000 processors, $200-300 X99 motherboard and $230-350 for DDR4 memory.
Fastest consumer CPU we've ever used. What else can I say?
I wonder how much difference
I wonder how much difference Broadwell will make in comparison when it comes out- while it looks like there is a difference in bandwidth, it looks like there was mot much change in performance I could attribute to DDR4. The monster cache was also a ? to me. Perhaps that helps with some DCPs? At any rate, I was hoping for a more definitive toe-to-toe performance change.
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To guys claiming your apps
To guys claiming your apps need to be multithreaded to use all the cores, what are you running MS DOS???
I have the new 5960x and i
I have the new 5960x and i think people miss the point of the product “THIS IS NOT FOR GAMES”. I am a 3d artist and having to wait too see where you messed up in your renders is KEY, you have no idea how hard it is to make pretty artwork on a i5 or lower chip.
If you want to render footage for youtube or just video/photo editing then dont buy this chip, its a waste plus it shows the world you have no idea what this chip should be used for.
This chip should be used for 3d artist’s who cant buy a super computer but would like fast renders for stills or short animations but saying that i would think for a long animation you would use an online render farm for the fished peace. Yes gpu rendering is great and becoming more mainstream but even these render engines use the cpu with the gpu to make the renders even faster “the cpu will never go away”.
Anyone wanting to judge this cpu against another needs too pick just 3d rendering as the benchmark and nothing else, its intels fault that they dont know how to market there cpu’s (this is a xeon based cpu and people want to play games on it lol)
GROW SOME BALLS INTEL AND MAKE A CPU RANGE FOR 3D ARTISTS THAT IS NOT A £2000/3000 CHIP (WE KNOW YOU CAN DO IT) we dont need to render a whole animated film but too make high-end images fast so we can learn our craft faster is a must…. we make your games and sell your products with our 3d skills, why not have more of us???
Well thats my rant and if you check A1OFFENDER on youtube that would make me happy ohhhhhhhhhhhh and i will say one thing that alot of people dont seem to know, this cpu will give you less frame dips in game but if that is your only need for the cpu and can afford it, do it (so many people say this chip wont help gaming but it will help with the frame dips but is it worth the extra doh???)
Wrote this in a rush lol peace out off to eat dinner
While I don’t see the need
While I don’t see the need for 2 (or 3) HDDs in an HTPC, it is because of noise and extra heat, more so than the loss of space. They had the space, since they wanted to make it the same width/depth dimensions of typical home theatre hardware, so they put it to use.
Arguably, moving the power supply out was extremely wise, since now it can be passively cooled, instead of forcing the chassis fans to go into overdrive venting the excess heat. Looking at the temps of a Pentium, without the addition of a graphics card or power supply, they really didn’t have the headroom to put any other heat producer inside the chassis.
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