The Windows event for the enterprise, which took place today in San Francisco, revealed the name of the upcoming OS. It is not Windows 9, or One Windows, or just Windows. It will be Windows 10. Other than the name, there is not really any new information from a feature or announcement standpoint (except the Command Prompt refresh that I actually will give a brief mention later). My interest comes from their mindset with this new OS — what they are changing and what they seem to be sticking with.
If you would like Microsoft's commentary before reading mine, the keynote is embed above.
Okay, so one thing that was shown is "Continuum". If you have not seen its prototype at the end of the above video, it is currently a small notification that appears when a keyboard and mouse is attached (or detached). If a user accepts, this will flip the user interface between tablet and desktop experiences. Joe Belfiore was clear that the video clip was not yet in code, but represents their vision. In practice, it will have options for whether to ask the user or to automatically do some chosen behavior.
In a way, you could argue that it was necessary to go through Windows 8.x to get to this point. From the demonstrations, the interface looks sensible and a landing point for users on both Windows 7 and Windows 8 paths. That said, I was fine with the original Windows 8 interface, barring a few glitches, like disappearing icons and snapping sidebars on PCs with multiple monitors. I always considered the "modern" Windows interface to be… acceptable.
It was the Windows Store certification that kept me from upgrading, and Microsoft's current stance is confusing at the very least. Today's announcement included the quote, "Organizations will also be able to create a customized store, curating store experiences that can include their choice of Store apps alongside company-owned apps into a separate employee store experience." Similar discussion was brought up and immediately glossed over during the keynote.
Who does that even apply to? Would a hobbyist developer be able to set up a repository for friends and family? Or is this relegated to businesses, leaving consumers to accept nothing more than what Microsoft allows? The concern is that I do not want Microsoft (or anyone) telling me what I can and cannot create and install on my devices. Once you build censorship, the crazies will come. They usually do.
But onto more important things: Command Prompt had a major UX overhaul. Joe Belfiore admitted that it was mostly because most important changes were already leaked and reported on, and they wanted to surprise us with something. They sure did. You can now use typical keyboard shortcuts, shift to select, ctrl+c and ctrl+v to copy/paste, and so forth. The even allow a transparency option, which is common in other OSes to make its presence less jarring. Rather than covering over what you're doing, it makes it feel more like it overlays on top of it, especially for quick commands. At least, that is my opinion.
Tomorrow, October 1st, Microsoft will launch their "Windows Inside Program". This will give a very early glimpse at the OS for "most enthusiastic Windows fans" who are "comfortable running pre-release software that will be of variable quality". They "plan to share all the features (they) are experimenting with". They seem to actually want user feedback, a sharp contrast from their Windows 8 technical preview. My eye will on relaxing certification requirements, obviously.




There better be a way to turn
There better be a way to turn of any touch screen crap, even if the laptop comes with a touch screen, there needs to be an ignore the touch setting, on laptops. There will be laptops on sale at microcenter, new, but last years model, with quad core i7s, and they may have touch enabled screens, but be on sale for a good price, so widows 9 needs a pretend the touchscreen is not there setting, and flush Metro TIFKAM BOB the third, and those tiles down the crapper! It’s no touch, even if the laptop has the ability, or some more lost sales for microcenter, on those last years bargains, its not as if Intel’s CPUs are improving by leaps and bounds, but the discrete GPU’s on those year old models do show a little more improvement from time to time! I’m not the bleeding edge type, and my back account is a little bigger for it, but this tiled TIFKAM crap is keeping my yearly hardware update from happening.
Damn make that windows 10,
Damn make that windows 10, for all those 9s, dagnabit!
WTF with the F-ing number jump, M$, was it because of all the things people were saying that 9 should have, so you slipped in a new number at the last minute, to fool the windows 9 search engine page hits linked to 9, from the pissed off desktop users posts on what 9 should be! is that it M$, look at my original post it said 9, even though I meant the one after that god awful 8! which you instead named 10, and I still see tiles, those damned Tiles!
At that same notion why did
At that same notion why did they go from versions to years, to words/letters, back to version numbers? 1.x 2.x 3.x, 95, 98, 98se, ME, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8.x, and now 10… Xbox, Xbox 360, then Xbox One…. Office is now Office 365… I’m sure it was some marketing research that determined the title, and I’m okay with that, I know it’s the next one and will be good to go. And while the tiles were jarring, I really feel it was an over-reaction by a lot of people, but myself being a legacy user I always used commands to get to everything anyway because it’s faster and more efficient, as long as they keep supporting keyboard shortcuts, adding new ones like the glorious Win+x then I’m all for it. Ctrl+V in the command prompt instead of various workarounds like “alt+space, e, p”.
TL;DR I think M$ prides itself on varying naming schemes, thanks for still adding kb shortcuts and various commands.
Try all that with a bad
Try all that with a bad rotator Cuff/Cup, and that little basic Logitech style small mouse stops a lot of pain, and wear and tear. For accessibility reasons alone, M$ should be legally required to make even touchscreen enabled laptop/pc monitors, act like they do not have the touch ability. There should be a driver switch provided by the ODM LCD/whatever screen/monitor device, that can be enabled to trick the OS, and whatever software, into thinking that a touch enabled screen is a non touch enabled model! If M$ wants more lawsuits, let them keep shoving touch on laptops, and desktop PCs. Sometimes the onscreen keyboard actuated by a mouse click, is the only way to avoid the pain, and the small mouse movement can cover the largest of screen realestate with a very small amount of movement, wrist resting on the table/desk, and taking the weight off of the rotator Cuff/cup.
Some new things, might be
Some new things, might be good.
I do not want any tiles anywhere on a desktop system, I hate the look of them and I do not want them jumping out at me in the start menu.
In fact I want control of what I get shown not Microsoft pushing its apps store at me, for sales commision on third party stuff, no thanks.
I want to be able to transfer my OS to any PC I have as well, I am often changeing my systems about.
I agree on the apps store –
I agree on the apps store – the real reason for a walled garden approach is to all MS to charge fees to developers – just as Apple does.
I am a grown up and should be allowed to choose what I load onto my computer.
The really important question is whether MS will bring back a live clock onto the start screen – I know I have an app for that but it is pathetic not to have it built in
Windows 10? Would expect
Windows 10? Would expect nothing less from the company that named its 3rd Xbox, the Xbox One.
Hoping this release will follow the good/bad cycle and get back to a decent OS. Recently reinstalled Vista on an old laptop, that had until recently been running w7 (moved the full license over to new PC). You forget just how bad Vista was…
I’ll definitely look into installing w10 through the Windows Insider Program. Can play about with it on the laptop and see whether I want to put in a preorder for my PC.
good would have windows 9
good would have windows 9 they skipped it and went to bad.
Oh sheet- another
Oh sheet- another even-numbered Windows…. LINUX anyone?
The ONLY reason they are
The ONLY reason they are calling it Windows 10 is because of the Mac OS 10 name…..obviously very petty of Microsoft
No mention of DX12
No mention of DX12 exclusivity… When will we see a PCPer Preview?
I’ll install it on my
I’ll install it on my machines when it drops next year.
I move that we call
I move that we call it:
Windows 10/9
Windows 10(9)
Windows 10(who do you think you are fooling with the numbers game M$)
Windows 10(As in 10 is 2 away from 8, but 10/2 = 5, and a five and dime app store, to nickel and dime users for more M$)
Windows 10(Now with more digits, for extra! extra! security)
Windows 10(Ha! we fooled you, now all those T-shirts that say 9 better fix it, have no meaning)
Windows 10(Two full barge poles away from that awful 8)
Windows 10(we’ll fix that even-odd problem, but not our OS)
Windows 10(there must be a minimum of 10 players on a developers, developers, developers… team)
Windows 10(We made a lot of promises about 9, that we can not keep, so 10 fixes that problem)
I feel I’m being suck in to a
I feel I’m being suck in to a blackhole called Microsoft cloud.
You must have a Microsoft account to log in to your pc.
Just wait for the monthly
Just wait for the monthly subscription fee. They may even give you a break if you subscribe annually.
This is almost the Holy Grail. It IS the Holy Grail once they get a government mandate for it.
Forced M$ account, or account
Forced M$ account, or account login, and windows 7, becomes the next XP, and the final M$ OS, for sure, for me!
10 better get system image backups, and no requirement for the professional edition, to do system image backups to a network drive, and get those ad hoc networking between two laptops hoops streamlined, so I can truly isolate my laptop to laptop Ethernet transfers from any outside my ad hoc intranet permissions and security settings.
It would be nice if the OS could create a graphical system topology map of my PC/Laptop, with icons representing all of the PCs/Laptop’s chips/controllers/ports, and including the ports/controllers/whatever maximum speeds, and current loads/bandwidth used, the Icons could be connected by lines that represent the bus/bus traces in a good old fashion engineering schematic type of diagrammatical representation of the PC/laptop hardware layout. So I can tell just how much USB controllers to USB ports that are on the platform, and know for sure what my maximum allowable/available bandwidth is, same goes for SATA/whatever ports.
This should not be hard for any OS provider, as the topological layout is already enumerated to the OS, and OEM system build, so why not have it, for laptops, especially on laptops, where damn little information is provided. And any plug and play hardware is also automatically enumerated, and drivers delegated into the messaging/interrupt chain of events, so it’s easy for their icons to pop up into the system schematic, and pop off when dismounted/unplugged This is real OS improvement stuff. You want to charge me more for this, and other real OS types of things, fine, just trashcan, the for slack jawed, one sized fits all OS, and make reasonably priced professional productivity OS build, with none of that lowest common denominator tiles/social/fondle stuff. A COMPLETE graphical system schematic with helpful system info, and realtime status and control, now that’s a real control panel.
Windows 10 looks like the
Windows 10 looks like the best of all worlds. What Windows 8 should have been. The only deal breaker will be if a Microsoft account is mandatory (no work-around like Win8).
they will always have local
they will always have local accounts.
and it wasn’t a work around with win 8, it was just pick..local or not.
I refuse to signon to the
I refuse to signon to the cloud, It’s the XBONE to the OS fiasco, all over again, only bigger, with more always MUST be connected to the M$ Matrix BS.
That search line on the
That search line on the reinstated start menu, better not go off of my laptop/PC/whatever device, and onto the Bing search service/any internet service, so my personal desktop/filename searches, etc. better not be snooped for metrics, and such. Windows has to come out of the box, and defaulting to, a no share with Bing/whatever cloud service, any of my personal business, keep you cloud out of my business M$! What happens on my intranet, has no business being broadcasted to any internet Cloud, unless I make it so!
If I need a microsoft account
If I need a microsoft account to log in, on top of that being forced to use the cloud and the horrid bing they are pushing Ill stay with 7 til I die it seems.
looks fine to me.
looks fine to me.
All the numbering confusion
All the numbering confusion aside, why is MS allowing this 14 year old emo girl to introduce this product?
Its either one extreme or the
Its either one extreme or the other with M$, this guy, or that Big sweaty guy bouncing around the stage, the same goes from the M$ OS product. Just split off an Enterprise, SMB, and Home professional, OS division, from the consumer OS division, why not! they could share the same OS Kernel, but have their own UI/system desktop environment, Oh wait, isn’t there a flightless bird OS kernel that does essentially that, with lots of options and user choice!
“ctrl+c and ctrl+v to
“ctrl+c and ctrl+v to copy/paste”, How do we end a program now if we can’t use ctrl-c?
Erm, Alt+F4 or if it’s a
Erm, Alt+F4 or if it's a Windows Store App, you can drag down from the top to suspend/close it.
Hasn't Ctrl+C always been copy or was this a joke? 🙂
He meant in the command
He meant in the command prompt. You must not have ever used it before. You used ctrl+c in a command window to stop the processing. If ctrl+c is now copy, we have to learn a new way to stop the command process after 30 years?
10 seems like it might be good, definitely what 8 should have been.
I think it’s an oblique
I think it’s an oblique reference. In Unix/Linux console, it’s no joke. Ctl+C ends the current process.
I installed the tech preview.
I installed the tech preview. ctrl+c still ends a running process, and its used for copy when there is not a running process. There is no right click option anymore, but you still have the old mark copy options from the menu.
Thanks. I guess that makes
Thanks. I guess that makes sense.
Why was Windows 10 afraid of
Why was Windows 10 afraid of Windows 7?
Because 7 eight 9… >_> <_<
Oh god that’s terrible. So
Oh god that’s terrible. So horrible. The worst cheesie windows joke ever. I LOVE IT! I will be using that one for months. perfect answer to the upcoming questions. Thank you, it will be used, ALOT!
Windows 7 is a great business
Windows 7 is a great business OS. Stable, easy to use. No BS upgrade from the old XP. Old people don’t like too many changes in GUI’s..as well as IT admins. This is a good “tactical retreat” for MS. This will make them money.
Just what i want in my start
Just what i want in my start menu…tiles -_-
Those tiles are still alive,
Those tiles are still alive, and along with that the CPU cycles stealing Tiles/TIFKAM/BING runtime/services to run all that fondle slabbed slack jawed nonsense! But the Big enterprise fish will not bite that baited hook, and 7 will be the New XP!
Windows inside program, ha, it’s going to be more like the windows outside the enterprise, because M$ screwed up X too many times. And windows may be The X-OS once used by enterprises on their laptops/tablets/PCs/whatever devices! With millions of OSs wrapped in containers and running on vast server farms, M$ better get a streamlined, no toys attached, enterprise OS, that can be quickly spun up inside a container, or VM, and take up as little space/resources as is absolutely necessary for the task, or risk missing the containerized cargo ship, and any relevance to the enterprise market. Enterprise OSs are for work, not play!
Puck Yeah! Microsoft has
Puck Yeah! Microsoft has finally got it!!! I’m gonna buy stock again in them! I’ll be Donald Trump-Lotto rich!
I am running the new preview,
I am running the new preview, and I must say, I love it. I think it is a nice feel of 7 and 8. Even being a preview, it runs smooth and does not feel as clunky or as awkward as 8. I really do look forward at seeing what the final build brings to the table.
Or M$ could just offer an
Or M$ could just offer an extension on 7 after 2020, for those the will never buy 10, as long as that BING, Tiles, social, cloud, anything 8ish remains stapled to the OS. Windows 7, is the windows enterprise edition, and enterprises will wait until 2020, and M$ will damn sure offer them an extension, or lose Billions! Windows 10 is not the enterprise edition, ask the enterprise users what M$ OS is most used by the enterprise, and that’s the enterprise edition, in spite of what M$ thinks it should be. Enterprises will run their own cloud, and the servers will run Linux/other, and with IBM/others those laptops/tablet devices may be based on any OS, and run the enterprises’ clients to the enterprises’ clouds. Windows 7 will have a long life, and enterprises do not switch until the OS’s EOL, they will get their investment amortized over many years, the bean counters will make damn sure of that.