Tablet battle, Nokia N1 versus the Nexus 9

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   Anonymous on November 20, 2014 at 8:33 pm

   Another benefit to the Nokia
   Another benefit to the Nokia – you can crack it and load Windows (non-RT).

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     Shortwave on November 21, 2014 at 2:53 am

     That, is awesome…
     That, is awesome…

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   willmore on November 20, 2014 at 9:25 pm

   I think you misunderstand the
   I think you misunderstand the difference between a benefit and a liability.

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   Anonymous on November 20, 2014 at 9:41 pm

   Nokia N1 has all the benefits
   Nokia N1 has all the benefits and no liability with the added benefit of running full Windows 8.1 64-bit.

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   Jim cherry on November 20, 2014 at 9:48 pm

   Years kiss of death for the
   Years kiss of death for the nexus 9. :}

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   Jim cherry on November 20, 2014 at 9:51 pm

   Ment to say tegra kiss of
   Ment to say tegra kiss of death. Damn android keyboard

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   Anonymous on November 21, 2014 at 5:25 pm

   “Nexus 9 is to retail for
   “Nexus 9 is to retail for $400 while the N1 is planned to sell for about $250”

   And how much of the savings is contra revenue, and will not be around for much longer, and what a terrible article to link to, no IPC comparisons of the respective cores, and the K1 Denver core was presented at the Hot Chips symposium as being capable of 7+ IPCs. What about the ATOM Moorefield core? The Intel processor is using the PowerVR G6430. How F_cking lazy are today’s tech reporters, and how incomplete are the Internet based CPU/SOC specifications! CPU world has some of the most complete specs., BUT the CPU’s/SOC’s microarchitecture core’s IPCs is not listed. Graphics wise the K1 has better graphics, and Tablets not offering a full Linux distro, is truly a bummer, Android being a cross platform virtual machine and not as close to the CPU’s metal, as native code, but that is not so big a deal as it used to be. The online resources on CPUs/SOCs are missing several vital statistics, the SOC’s address bus widths, are not included on most Wikipedia CPU/SOC tables, and most of the Internal CPU core’s internal execution resources(FP, Int, etc. pipelines) for the individual microarchitecture are not listed in any specifications tables.

   There are many different features that are neglected in order to get that copy out there to decorate the ads, and most tech websites are indeed more about the ads, than about providing actual information. For sure The K1 based SOC has the better graphics, and is the only mobile SOC, to date, that can boast being able to support the full desktop version of OpenGL, something that should make porting a full Linux distro to the tablet relatively easy, but still it’s the tablets tied to the more closed software ecosystems that have control of the Tablet market, Hopefully that will change so I can purchase a tablet with a full Linux OS. Anandtech articles appear to be, short of the microarchitecture being presented at the Hot Chips symposium, or the microprocessor report(pay walled), and other academic journals, the only source of a more complete investigation of the internals of the SOC/CPU execution resources. To date, I have almost never read an article that completely compares SOCs/CPUs point for point when comparing devices, and the linked to report is much more incomplete than complete, hopefully there will be more benchmarks forthcoming, but Benchmarks alone can not tell the full story.

   It is a good thing the Intel has not been able to take control of the mobile market, look at how much innovation true competition is producing, and hopefully that competition will move to the server room, once the Power8s, licensed by third parties, begin to appear. The ARM, and the Power8 processors, are proof that RISC based processors are more than capable of providing systems for all devices from phones to supercomputers, and it is better for the consumer that one ISA, controlled by one company, never has so much of a hold on the supply chain. ARM Holdings is an IP licenser not a CPU maker, the same for Imagination Technologies the designer of the PowerVR GPUs, IBM has decided to become an IP licenser, in addition to an IP user, so that’s one more CPU ISA(power), along with the ARM ISA, that can be utilized by all manufactures, or OEMs. Imagination Technologies also has MIPS based SOC designs to compete with ARM based designs/products.

   The unnatural locking of any device to a single OS, is my reason for not owning a tablet, and I would like this practice to be stopped, but the Monopolies are very much in control of the technology sector, the same way that they were in control of the Oil sector, and both political parties are not in the trust busting mood. Fore sure, when AMD gets its Custom ARM ISA Based APUs to market, Nvidia will have some competition in that market segment as well. I just do not see any x86 based products being able to compete in the phone/IOT market segment, even less so once the independent Fabs are no longer behind in process node technologies.

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