UPDATE (5/22/15): Johan Andersson tweeted out this photo this morning, with the line: "This new island is one seriously impressive and sweet GPU. wow & thanks @AMDRadeon ! They will be put to good use :)" Looks like we can confirm that at least one of the parts AMD is releasing does have the design of the images we showed you before, though the water cooling implementation is missing or altered.
END UPDATE
File this under "rumor" for sure, but a cool one none the less…
After yesterday's official tidbit of information surrounding AMD's upcoming flagship graphics card for enthusiasts and its use of HBM (high bandwidth memory), it appears we have another leak on our hands. The guys over at Chiphell have apparently acquired some stock footage of the new Fiji flagship card (whether or not it will be called the 390X has yet to be seen) and it looks…awesome.
In that post from yesterday I noted that with an HBM design AMD could in theory build an add-in card that is of a different form factor than anything we have previously seen for a high end part. Based on the image above, if this turns out to be the high end Fiji offering, it appears the PCB will indeed be quite small as it no longer requires memory surrounding the GPU itself. You can also see that it will in fact be water cooled though it looks like it has barb inlets rather than a pre-attached cooler in this image.
The second leaked image shows display outputs consisting of three full-size DisplayPort connections and a single HDMI port.
All of this could be faked of course, but if it is, the joker did a damn good job of compiling all the information into one design. If it's real, I think AMD might finally have a match for the look and styling of the high-end GeForce offerings.
What do you think: real or fake? Cool or meh? Let us know!
beautiful
beautiful
Hmm no dvi/vga port? Slightly
Hmm no dvi/vga port? Slightly concerned about that, unless they provide a hdmi to vga AND hdmi to dvi adapter.
Afaik vga was dropped already
Afaik vga was dropped already from hawaii cards(r9-290/x. And I mean really dropped, hawaii series has 2xDVI-D dual link digital only). So it have to be active adapter if you wanted to get vga out. Hdmi to dvi adapter is more possible though(digital to digital).
No fans on this? So I presume VRM:s are cooled within water loop(full cover block or not). Looking forward to see reviews from this.
Correct me if I’m mistaken,
Correct me if I’m mistaken, but there are no VRMs with HBM architecture? I thought it was on chip, hence the small form factor.
heh I’m not talking about
heh I’m not talking about _vrams_, but _vrms_ aka voltage regulation modules, mostly some sort of fets…
…And hbm is vram too it just abbreviation of video random access memory, which hbm obviously is.
HDMI and DIV-D have the same
HDMI and DIV-D have the same signal minus the fact that HDMI also carries extra info (inc trusted connection stuff) on other pins… so you can use a cheap (like >$5) cable or adapter.
Really?……..vga?? What
Really?……..vga?? What exactly are you worried about? That your brand new possibly $800 card will not work without a $5 adapter on your 12 year old monitor?……
Hey now, VGA compatibility is
Hey now, VGA compatibility is only the beginning for me. Then I have to split that VGA adapter down to an RCA plug, then take that down to speaker wire leads to go under the screw-down antenna terminals on my slide switch box that also supports my Atari 2600 and rabbit ears, then more leads to the UHF terminals on my black-and-white Sears Kenmore t.v. As you can see, being able to skip even one step is a godsend.
I use a KVM and for those you
I use a KVM and for those you are looking at a price jump from ~$100 for VGA to about $600 for DVI in the same number of ports. That is why I still need VGA.
Bro, do you even remote? How
Bro, do you even remote? How archaic are you? I work in a large company, and we dont even use a kvm switch on our server stacks since they’re all giant VM farms. Be it physical or vm… you can remote into it.
that is so irrelevant it
that is so irrelevant it hurts my brain
my prediction
AMD Radeon Fiji
my prediction
AMD Radeon Fiji WaterCooled Edition
~750-1000mhz core
4096 shaders
4GB HBM, ~550GB/s
3x DP + 1x HDMI 2.0
AMD Radeon Fiji
~750-1000mhz core
4096 shaders
4GB HBM, ~500GB/s
3x DP + 1x HDMI 2.0
AMD Radeon Fiji Pro
~7500-1000mhz core
3680 shaders
4GB HBM ~500GB/s
3x DP + 1x HDMI 2.0
hope its real and needs
hope its real and needs cooling raidiator to go with it.
Super interesting !! Excited
Super interesting !! Excited to see if AMD can hit something out of the park instead of a line drive to the left fielder
Would fit BEAUTIFULLY in my
Would fit BEAUTIFULLY in my Corsair 250D. I’ll just have to wait to upgrade….
PRETTY ON THE
PRETTY ON THE OUTSIDE.
EVERYONE KNOWS ITS WHAT IS INSIDE THAT COUNTS
(IT DOES LOOK FAKE THOUGH)
It appears to be an
It appears to be an artificial approximation. There is at least one glaring discrepancy between the two images. The width of the ‘aluminum’ section on which the RADEON logo is placed is about twice as wide on the new image.
It’s so cute!!! If AMD can
It’s so cute!!! If AMD can sort out their crossfire drivers 2 (if the price is good why not 3) of these could power my next build.
Like most early card shots
Like most early card shots this is probably either fake, or just not what it claims to be. But I really hope its real, a small form factor makes heaps of sense if your water cooling from factory, and factory AIO cooled cards have been very popular with both the r9 295×2 and board partner cards like the EVGA gtx980 hybrid. So hopeful, but not really expecting.
AMD needs to get back in the
AMD needs to get back in the game. Lets have the glorious discrete GPU battle of the glorious early 21st century.
Hope its real, looks really
Hope its real, looks really cool. Been wanting to switch my 290X out, makes no sense to get a GTX 980 with this around the corner. I just hope thermals and power are better than the 290X.
Damn that thing is sexy.
Damn that thing is sexy. This is SO going into my ITX build-in-progress now.
Hmm….water cooling? I guess
Hmm….water cooling? I guess the gpu core even hotter than maxwell titan.
I am not complaining about the smaller card size though. In fact, prefer if both vendors use smaller card size.
You are not going to see
You are not going to see smaller cards from Nvidia until they move to HBM next year.
Or, thanks to the HBM (what
Or, thanks to the HBM (what is much smaller than DDR5 and is maybe closer to the GPU chip), it has a much higher heat density, and air is no longer sufficient to deal with it, regardless of the venting design.
If true, good riddance, AMD
If true, good riddance, AMD reference blower!
Well the ref blower likely
Well the ref blower likely still used as they will have an air cooled version as well so could see said blower yet.
I don’t think so. The green
I don’t think so. The green press used the poor performance of the cooling system on the original Hawaii cards, to distract people’s attention from the cards performance and paint a negative picture for the 290 series. I don’t think AMD will introduce anything else than the water cooled card, leaving the air cooled cards to it’s partners.
We could see a reverse in rolls here compared with the past, where the reference model was the cheap one and third party the more capable and also the more expensive versions of a card. With Fiji we could end up with an expensive reference water cooled card and plenty and (much) cheaper air cooled cards from AMD’s partners.
I’ve been running Nvidia
I’ve been running Nvidia cards for years now, but would love to see AMD come out with something that can compete at the high end, I think it would really change the landscape of the market.
Going the DisplayPort route
Going the DisplayPort route make sense given that their FreeSync solution is dependent on the Adaptive-Sync feature set in DisplayPort.
I will definitely be considering a part (like this) from AMD when it comes time for my new Win 10/DirectX 12 build in the fall/winter.
Their “FreeSync” is actually
Their “FreeSync” is actually VESA display port adaptive sync, “FreeSync” is just marketing, and the only free part is that it frees up a little bit more cash($$$) from the costs of the monitors that have the DP 1.2a standard built-in, as compared to those than come with G-sync. Make no mistake, all new technologies cost the monitor makers a good chunk of cash to adopt, and get certified to work with any standard, it’s just that DP 1.2a is an open standard and will not have the usual crippling to the wallet markups that the proprietary system(G-sync) has.
Is there a benefit to going
Is there a benefit to going with full sized DisplayPort instead of Mini DisplayPort? Mini PD is way smaller than full sized, unlike normal HDMI and Mini HDMI.
it seems wasteful IMO to have 3 full sized DP ports when it seems like there could be 4 or more MiniDP ports instead
Chances are your display has
Chances are your display has full size ports so you would have to buy adapters to use the card which would be annoying.
Not sure what people
Not sure what people expected. Once you put the memory in the GPU package, the only thing left on the board is the power supply components. The PCB routing should be trivial without the wide memory interface. Do we know whether it is 28 or 20 nm yet? At 28 nm, the water cooling would probably be needed because of the total heat output. At 20 nm, the water cooling might be needed because of thermal density issues rather than the total heat output. This may make dual cards a lot more reasonable size though; probably similar to current single gpu cards.
As far as this image is concerned, I would expect most manufactures to use a closed loop. There is some demand for custom loop parts though. I guess it could also be a closed loop card which is not fully assembled; if so, is the pump on the card, radiator, or separate? It is 2 slots thick so there probably would be room for a pump. Having the openings on the back seems suspicious though. It doesn’t seem like it would have a fan in there, so why would there be vents on the back if it is fully water cooled? It could have air cooling for the VRMs, but I don’t know how that would be set up with no blower intake on the front of the card.
This is a quote from a news
This is a quote from a news post on Tom’sHardware:
“Yesterday, during the presentation, AMD did not specifically announce the Radeon 300-series, but we assumed that’s what they were talking about. In light of the new information, however, it is possible that not all of the 300-Series GPUs have HBM memory, or that this quarter’s GPUs with HBM memory won’t be part of the 300-Series at all. We recognize these possibilities because the specifications for the GPUs listed on AMD’s website clearly state that they come with GDDR5 memory, and the model numbers range up to the Radeon R9 380.”
Gather this one is the real deal, but sucks AMD is doing another round of re-branding with the 300 series they just announced.
If the Wikipedia entries are
If the Wikipedia entries are correct, the 3xx series is OEM only. It is unclear why they exist at all. Wikipedia also list 4xx series as mostly rebranded parts except for the new Fuji parts (490/490x/495×2) with HBM. Only disappointing thing so far seems to be only 4 GB of memory for new HBM parts. It may not matter given how fast the memory will be and maybe changes with DX12. Although, I think you still have to enable higher AA modes to actually go over 4 GB. Of course, Wikipedia could be totally wrong.
If the Wikipedia entries are
If the Wikipedia entries are correct, the 3xx series is OEM only. It is unclear why they exist at all. Wikipedia also list 4xx series as mostly rebranded parts except for the new Fuji parts (490/490x/495×2) with HBM. Only disappointing thing so far seems to be only 4 GB of memory for new HBM parts. It may not matter given how fast the memory will be and maybe changes with DX12. Although, I think you still have to enable higher AA modes to actually go over 4 GB. Of course, Wikipedia could be totally wrong.
im pretty sure everyone has
im pretty sure everyone has said this that hbm is only going to be in the high end gpu maybe just the 390 or 490 whatever they’ll name it because its new tech and its expensive.on the whole rebrand thing im pretty sure their not going to do it,i think they’ll be using they same gpu that in the r9 285.
It’s a freaking grey
It’s a freaking grey pegboard, you can hang yard rakes and trimmers and a few pliers and some rope on it.
IT LOOKS TERRIBLE !
If they go with this people will hate it.
Agree. Definately needs to
Agree. Definately needs to be more shiny.
So just because you want some
So just because you want some crappy alienware looking aerodynamic video card does not mean that everyone wants that. The slot a videocard goes in has straight edges, not some stupid faceplate fan shroud. Grow up mang.
Fear not. They are releasing
Fear not. They are releasing the Cheese Edition with jewel-encrusted spinnaz and rainbow LEDs. It also has a perfume dispenser you usually only see in public restrooms.
those picks are fakes its
those picks are fakes its just an r9 285 saphire itx verszion with photo shop heatsink/watercooler in reality the card can be smaller then this just look at the sa[[hie verszion of the r9 285 http://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/DSCF2883.jpg
ops my bad wrong link
ops my bad wrong link http://www.overclockersclub.com/vimages/sapphire_itx_compact_r9_285_oc/18.jpg
I’m going to say fake based
I’m going to say fake based on the fact it’s not slathered in the AMD/ATI cheap plastic red coloring.