[H]ard|OCP have set up their testbed for a 4K showdown between the similarly priced GTX 980 Ti and Radeon R9 Fury X with the $1000 TITAN X tossed in there for those with more money than sense. The test uses the new Catalyst 15.7 and the GeForce 353.30 drivers to give a more even playing field while benchmarking Witcher 3, GTA V and other games. When the dust settled the pattern was obvious and the performance differences could be seen. The deltas were not huge but when you are paying $650 + tax for a GPU even performance a few frames better or a graphical option that can be used really matters. Perhaps the most interesting result was the redemption of the TITAN X, its extra price was reflected in the performance results. Check them out for yourself here.
"We take the new AMD Radeon R9 Fury X and evaluate the 4K gaming experience. We will also compare against the price competitive GeForce GTX 980 Ti as well as a GeForce GTX TITAN X. Which video card provides the best experience and performance when gaming at glorious 4K resolution?"
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You buy two R9 390?
You buy two R9 390?
Is it just me or HOCP seem
Is it just me or HOCP seem very pro nvidia ?
Not just in the way they test, but also in the commentary.
And they turn on Fur on the fury , but not on nvidia.
Making the game result slower.
And when they test using the same configuration, the Fury beat the 980 ti by 10% and still put slightly ahead of the 12GB Titan X.
The comment is ” R9 Fury X comes back out on top slightly”
Back from what ? from testing the game with a choice of option where even the Titan X can reach average 24fps.
The fact is the Fury at 4K in this game easely beat the 980 ti and Titan X. But HOCP seem to muddy the water to show the Fury being behind.
I also see this type of shenanigan at sites lie TReport, where they use a factory overclock GTX 980 Ti to compare it with a stock, non overclocked Fury X.
AMD got a great product, but it seem the press goal is to see AMD bankrupt.
I look at amazon top 20+ GPU, only 1 is AMD and its a sub $100 server card… Yet, the 290 and 290x beat 90% of the nvidia card sold on that list in term of performance & price.
But then again, it seem people wont even know if AMD stop making gaming GPU… beside the price of their nvidia card going up.
I dunno, I honestly I always
I dunno, I honestly I always felt as though HOCP was biased for AMD/ATI over NVIDIA.
I am hearing that they are
I am hearing that they are favoring Nvidia for over a year now.
Funny, Techreport got similar
Funny, Techreport got similar results… and other sites too.
Sorry, but Fury X is not really good choice for anybody. At best it matches 980Ti, at worst completely gets demolished. And one didn’t enter OCed models either like Gigabyte’s G1…
You can try to spin and twist things all you want, but you can never beat truth.
It destroys even the Titan X
It destroys even the Titan X in many compute workload.
And yes, TR is using overclocked nvidia cards in their reviews against stock AMD cards. They use the “Gigabyte GTX 980 G1 Gaming”
in their Radeon Fury review.. but only mentioned it once in a table.
Ever where else, they make you think all the GTX 980 result are stock…
And I never said the Fury X is priced right. To the contrary , its 100$ to much.
But, its none the less the most advanced and state of the art GPU you can buy today.
I like your choice of words.
I like your choice of words. At best matches, at worst demolished. Nvidia fanboy identified.
Every site has criticized AMD
Every site has criticized AMD last few years and rightfully so has been called nvidia fanboyz by amd fans. Lets face it AMD last few years hasn’t really did very much right that wasn’t 2 steps behind. Fury is decent card and step in right direction but hype over it and AMD PR graph that claimed faster then 980ti which turned out to not true.
AMD i think needs to start being more truthful and stop making promises they can’t keep. Cut the PR budget by to like 25% of what it is since they are idiots and put it in to their R&D and catch up.
“The fact is the Fury at 4K in this game easely beat the 980 ti and Titan X. But HOCP seem to muddy the water to show the Fury being behind.”
Well Almost all sites that tested the card put them pretty much dead heat, only ones that claimed faster was AMD PR slides. When techreport broke down settings used, AMD turned off things like AF and options that didn’t take advantage of the shaders on the card so they adjusted the settings to benefit their hardware. If you one those that believes those benchmarks then you are very sad.
have to agreed, AMD’s PR and
have to agreed, AMD’s PR and marketing teams are the worst in the industry, all they do is overhype their products only to have them fall way short and in return damaging their own image, not to mention this happens every fucking time, one would think that they would have learned their lesson by now. But then again the other part of the problem are the fanboys who will believe the pr/marketing bs and even after it has launched and failed to deliver on promised performance blame everyone else for it, it is never amd’s fault is it. If it was my decision they all would get fired and I would make damn sure they never get a job in the industry
Yes, AMD PR & Marketing group
Yes, AMD PR & Marketing group are all morons. (and it doesn’t stop there) Remember AMD spending 330 million for seamicro in 2012 and closing it down 3 year later, or selling AMD entire & profitable mobile chip division (sales team, IP, R&D, etc..) to Qualcomm for 65 million ?
Its to bad a real company is not taking over AMD, because its painful to watch.
Their video card reviews have
Their video card reviews have been hokey for years. Ever since they decided to make themselves stand out with “experience based testing” and using different settings for each card. I’m surprised they’re still doing that.
In BattleField 4 the GTX 980
In BattleField 4 the GTX 980 Ti was 3.2fps faster despite running at higher settings:
Once again, following the other games, we had to make the most sacrifices in image quality on the AMD Radeon R9 Fury X in order to make it playable at 4K. We had to completely turn off all forms of AA. We could not run MSAA or even Post AA FXAA option.
We also had to turn down most of the in-game settings to “High” settings from “Ultra.” The only two options we were able to leave on “Ultra” were textures and filtering. Otherwise, the settings of: Lighting Quality, Effects Quality, Post Processing Quality, Mesh Quality, Terrain Quality and Terrain Decoration were all set to “High.” In addition we also had to turn down Ambient Occlusion to SSAO from HBAO.
The GeForce GTX 980 Ti allowed us to improve image quality settings by turning everything to “Ultra” except for Effects and Post Processing, we had to leave those on “High.”
I don’t think 4k with a
I don’t think 4k with a single card is really that compelling yet. If you are serious about gaming at 4k then you should probably plan on going dual GPU. We will have single cards able to run 4k easily in the next generation though. There will be a big boost from HBM2 and a smaller process (20 nm FinFET or even 14 nm FinFET). Given the possible low yeilds on these process nodes for giant GPUs, it would be interesting to design multi-die GPUs and interconnect them through a silicon interposer. This would allow the GPU to be built from several smaller die. This would require significant design effort though. It also would require mask for probably multiple designs. Best case would be if they could design a single modular die that could be interconnected to look like a single GPU. This would pretty much end development for multi-gpu setups though. I don’t think we will see a multi-die GPU on silicon interposer for at least 2 generations out. The next generation will almost certainly be a single large die still.
The multi-gpu push is only happening due to the lack of progress in recent years due to being stuck at 28 nm. Once we get actual single gpu scaling again, multi-gpu may lose importance. With how small the multi-gpu market is, it will not get significant software development without a strong push. DX12 may make development easier, but it still will require significant work. Also, scaling beyond 2 GPUs requires different techniques compared to what works for dual set-ups. There is a possibility that single gpu scaling will still be slow due to continued process limitations, so hopefully companies are investing R&D in multi-gpu tech. They could do multi-gpu on a silicon interposer with smaller die discrete GPUs, but this would require multi-gpu software optimizations and would not really take advantage of the new capabilities offered by silicon interposers.
For right now, as someone already stated, a pair of R9 390 or R9 390X cards are probably your best bet. You get 8 GB of memory each and probably sufficient power to run 4k.
I have a 4k tv and “had”
I have a 4k tv and “had” $1300 so I got 2 980tis. 🙂
Thanks for letting us know,
Thanks for letting us know, we almost forgot you were rich!
#1 reason not to buy AMD…
#1 reason not to buy AMD… No not because the fan boys all have butt hurt and you don’t want to be one of those,
Nvidia Game streaming to a raspberry pi – Moonlight.
Specifically Dolphin Emulation over Moonlight!
By the way Nvidia… be sure to add Pin Pairing back into Geforce Experience or this #1 reason will go bye bye.
Still Buying the Fury X2 when
Still Buying the Fury X2 when it comes out as long as its two non-cut Fury X cards.
Based on what we are starting
Based on what we are starting to learn about Fury X OCing, I’d stay away and get 980Ti or Titan X. If AMD aren’t able to deliver on their promises, I’m staying away from the Company as a whole.
I think i can sum it up by
I think i can sum it up by sayings its an unfavourable game selection for Fury X in that Hard 4k review , not their intention i feel just what they had on hand (they have had this suite of games for a while). No SOM, no Metro LL etc.
I also feel a CFX comparison vs SLI comparison would have levelled the results a bit due to superior XDMA scaling also.
Fury X OC looks to be around 15% so far , only one review i have seen with any results so possibly that figure will grow a bit. Still its nowhere near enough to compete with the maxwell oc’ing so i think its still a matter of single card will be superior result for NV but dual card is a another story.
How to enjoy smooth 4K gaming
How to enjoy smooth 4K gaming wihtout losing eye candy:buy a mobo with 7 PCIE16X slots,plug as many Titan X as you can till no space left.
Enjoy that pathetic OC with
Enjoy that pathetic OC with overvolting core & mem for 3-5fps with a massive increase in wattage :O
So now on to that magical driver that will give Fury X the performance or can we already predict that to be non existing as well LOL
I actually have a 4K monitor,
I actually have a 4K monitor, that 40 inch one by Philips. I got it as much for desktop real estate as much as for eventual 4K gaming. But my present 780Ti won’t cut it.
I considered upgrading to a 980Ti, possibly as an SLI set up, but I’ve come to the conclusion that you still have to play with reduced settings to get decent playability and to avoid input lag. I’ve decided that the thing to do is hand on and wait for the next generation of cards (next year) in order to get a sufficient jump in performance.
In the meantime, I’ll muddle by with upscaled 1080p.