Dell announced a new 27-inch WQHD gaming monitor yesterday, and while the 2560×1440 resolution and TN panel are nothing new the real story is the inclusion of NVIDIA G-Sync Gen II that there was a typo in the release.
Dell provides these details about the S2716DG monitor:
- Nvidia’s G-Sync Gen II support feature synchronizes GPU and monitor to minimize graphic distortions and screen tearing
- Quad HD resolution of 2560 x 1440 with close to 2 times more onscreen details than Full HD
- A full range of adjustability features, like tilt, pivot, swivel and height-adjustable stand allow for long hours of comfortable gameplay
- A wide range of connectivity features, including DisplayPort 1.2, HDMI 1.4, four USB 3.0 ports, USB 3.0 upstream, Audio line-out & Headphone-out
- 144 Hz maximum refresh rate and 1ms response time
Pricing is listed as $799 and the S2716DG will be available October 20.
UPDATE: Looking at the Dell announcement page, the company links to a Quadro PDF using a technology called G-Sync II. The problem is that technology was releaesd in 2011 and served a very different purpose than the G-Sync we use for gaming monitors today. We always knew that re-using that name would haunt NVIDIA in some ways…this is one of them. So, that means that Dell's reference to a second generation of G-Sync here is simply a typo, or the naming scheme is correct but the writer of the press release linked to something unrelated.
It is possible that a new version of the G-Sync module is on its way with updated features and possibly support over other display outputs, but I haven't heard anything official as of yet. I'll keep digging!
UPDATE 2: Just confirmed with Dell, this was a typo! The S2176DG "was incorrectly listed as "G-Sync Gen II" and the accurate name of the technology is NVIDIA® G-SYNC™." There you have it. False alarm!
-Ryan
What is gsync gen 2 exactly?
What is gsync gen 2 exactly?
> What is gsync gen 2
> What is gsync gen 2 exactly?
It’s an excellent power-user linux distro. 😛
“G-Sync II, now better than
“G-Sync II, now better than ever! No module required, works with any DP monitor with Adaptive-Sync!”
Either that or NVIDIA is going to attempt to justify a newer $200 module.
Or maybe it’s just this:
http://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/40049/Quadro_GSync_install_guide_v4.pdf
I supplied that link as a
I supplied that link as a joke since it’s from 2011 and is about Quadro cards, but the official Dell blog links to it as well. They’re just full of ****. Someone in the PR department screwed up.
http://en.community.dell.com/dell-blogs/direct2dell/b/direct2dell/archive/2015/08/27/in-a-league-of-their-own-dell-introduces-its-first-gaming-monitor-and-new-27-curved-display
It’s a new module with
It’s a new module with support for an HDMI Port. And maybe more.
Could be that they finally produced an ASIC instead of an FPGA.
You actually believe your own
You actually believe your own lies?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2977500/displays/dells-first-gaming-display-doesnt-really-pack-g-sync-gen-ii-but-it-still-looks-nice.html
“When PCWorld emailed for comment, Nvidia’s Bryan Del Rizzo said ‘No, it’s not [accurate]. There is no version 2.'”
i am just going to leave this
i am just going to leave this here
install Gentoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGSMUep6_4
Good on them for saying
Good on them for saying “2560×1440” rather than “1440p”! (hint: you don’t denote that a computer monitor is progressive scan and you don’t give just one dimension’s value).
Boo on them for their “quad HD!” bullshit.
Boo on them for TN.
Seriously, what the fuck *is* Generation 2 Gsync? literally the only thing google digs up are comments about this monitor.
Well, the ASUS ROG Swift was
Well, the ASUS ROG Swift was also “supposed” to be 2560×1440@144Hz, but to keep costs down (on a $700 TN-based monitor) they implemented VERTICAL interlacing (check all the threads where owners complained and ASUS refused to comment).
So that is either 2560x1440i144 OR 2560x720p144, how ever you want to see it (technically the former is more correct).
So if Dell doesn’t explicitly list the monitor as capable of 2560x1440p144, then I would be very weary indeed. I’ve already lost a lot of money of that POS ROG SWIFT (after the second RMA I realised that it was a design choice and not a fault), and where I live you can’t return “technically non-defective” merchandise.
B-B-But I haerd dat Gay-Sink
B-B-But I haerd dat Gay-Sink is dead!?
Pricey for a 1440 g sync
Pricey for a 1440 g sync
mhm, for that price you can
mhm, for that price you can get an IPS equivalent 🙂
idiots who pay 800$ for TN deserve to suffer
AND it’s TN… :
AND it’s TN… :
According to PC World Nvidia
According to PC World Nvidia says this monitor doesnt have GSYNC II and there is also no such thing.
What gives PCPER?
Why on earth would you buy
Why on earth would you buy this when you can get the ASUS ROG Swift for nearly $150 less.
Also since this is supposed to be a “gaming” monitor… response time is suspiciously absent from this announcement.
And refresh rate as well.
And refresh rate as well.
Because the ASUS ROG Swift
Because the ASUS ROG Swift cannot do true 2560×1440 @ 144Hz. It converts the RGB signal into a YUV colorspace, throws away 75% of the color data (downsample by a factor of 2) and then alternatively projects the composit frame at 2560×720 interlaced horizontally.
TLDR; go look at the ASUS ROG Swift before you buy it. And don’t listen to the sales rep telling you that its just the display model that looks so bad. No amount of RMA’ing will change the way the monitor was intended to work
You seem to know an awful lot
You seem to know an awful lot about monitors, what do you use and why/ what would you buy if you had a good amount of money but not rich?
Actually refresh rate (144)
Actually refresh rate (144) and response time (1ms) are in the announcement, just not in the list of details they copied. Would have been nice to include that information.
Dell must be dreaming, it is
Dell must be dreaming, it is priced way too high(unless it has some features that no other monitor has)
for $799 you can get this TN panel from Dell, or you can get the IPS version of this from ACER on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009742
or for $669, you can get the same TN panel from Asus:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236405
I would take a 1ms (actual
I would take a 1ms (actual response time should be about 7-8ms average) TN panel over a IPS-type any day of the week.
8-bit quantization artifacts and the pathetic sRGB colorspace are bad enough that the improved viewing angles of an IPS panel is pretty much moot (and why do people insist on placing their monitors on the ceiling anyway?).
What does that have to do
What does that have to do with the price? I clearly made a point of just how ridiculously high priced the Dell is as compared to other products with the same specs. But it looks like you didn’t read my entire comment either.
This just looks like a typo
This just looks like a typo or other confusion. I wouldn’t pay this much for a TN panel anyway.
If this had been an IPS
If this had been an IPS display I would have been sad that it wasn’t freesync.
That’s one hell of a premium price for a TN panel even with gsync.
G-Sync Gen II just mean they
G-Sync Gen II just mean they charge you twice for the module for the same result.
It has what no other gsync
It has what no other gsync has ever had quality control. You should see far less bs then asus acer you paying for quality control that’s actually being done unlike other bs companies who are just charging arm leg first born.
yet giving you complete utter shiat for money google asus and rma experience nuff Said dell can justify price if they Qc theses. Would rather pay extra knowing I’m not getting a box of shiat that has to be sent back over and over till I get one that I’ll have to compromise with and live with some defect.
Dell should be ashamed at the
Dell should be ashamed at the pricing of this product.
yeah 800 for a TN panel?!
yeah 800 for a TN panel?!
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-XB270HU-bprz-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B00UPVXDA8
So a gsync ips panel 144hz @ 1440p is cheaper than this late to the party junk?
I’ll wait for mobile gsync
I’ll wait for mobile gsync (freesync) to get hacked before I drop 800 bucks on a TN panel.
LMFAO at price
After owning
LMFAO at price
After owning acer ips gsync no way i would go back to TN.
Prior i though IPS was bad for games but this XB270HU proves otherwise. Colors are night and day difference from TN no stupid color shift when leaning back in chair and going from 1-5ms response is not noticeable at all.
Tn panels are monitors should be under 500 regardless if its 1440p with gsync
keep smoking that crack dell
Oh goody. A Catleap monitor
Oh goody. A Catleap monitor with a dell logo for twice the price. NEEEEXT.
Did the Dell rep happen to
Did the Dell rep happen to comment if the pricing was a typo as well? Because we aren’t seeing how they came up with that one.
turns out this monitor is now
turns out this monitor is now on sale for $489 via Amazon, not sure for how long –
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0149QBOF0/ref=psdcmw_1292115011_t1_B0173PEX20
seems to have best QC going for it