Light on architecture details
Thought Intel has provided very little in terms of technical information, Skylake is here FIRST for the enthusiasts and gamers. Is it worth it?
Our Intel Skylake launch coverage is intense! Make sure you hit up all the stories and videos that are interesting for you!
- The Intel Core i7-6700K Review – Skylake First for Enthusiasts (Video)
- Skylake vs. Sandy Bridge: Discrete GPU Showdown (Video)
- ASUS Z170-A Motherboard Preview
- Intel Skylake / Z170 Rapid Storage Technology Tested – PCIe and SATA RAID
The Intel Skylake architecture has been on our radar for quite a long time as Intel's next big step in CPU design. Through leaks and some official information discussed by Intel over the past few months, we know at least a handful of details: DDR4 memory support, 14nm process technology, modest IPC gains and impressive GPU improvements. But the details have remained a mystery on how the "tock" of Skylake on the 14nm process technology will differ from Broadwell and Haswell.
Interestingly, due to some shifts in how Intel is releasing Skylake, we are going to be doing a review today with very little information on the Skylake architecture and design (at least officially). While we are very used to the company releasing new information at the Intel Developer Forum along with the launch of a new product, Intel has instead decided to time the release of the first Skylake products with Gamescom in Cologne, Germany. Parts will go on sale today (August 5th) and we are reviewing a new Intel processor without the background knowledge and details that will be needed to really explain any of the changes or differences in performance that we see. It's an odd move honestly, but it has some great repercussions for the enthusiasts that read PC Perspective: Skylake will launch first as an enthusiast-class product for gamers and DIY builders.
For many of you this won't change anything. If you are curious about the performance of the new Core i7-6700K, power consumption, clock for clock IPC improvements and anything else that is measurable, then you'll get exactly what you want from today's article. If you are a gear-head that is looking for more granular details on how the inner-workings of Skylake function, you'll have to wait a couple of weeks longer – Intel plans to release that information on August 18th during IDF.
So what does the addition of DDR4 memory, full range base clock manipulation and a 4.0 GHz base clock on a brand new 14nm architecture mean for users of current Intel or AMD platforms? Also, is it FINALLY time for users of the Core i7-2600K or older systems to push that upgrade button? (Let's hope so!)
Intel's Skylake Enthusiast Push
Get this folks: PC gaming is a thriving business. Intel first attempted to make good with enthusiasts and overclockers with the release of Devil's Canyon, the Core i7-4790K. That CPU boosted clock speeds at a slight TDP increase while pushing clocks to their highest out-of-box settings yet. They were fully unlocked and priced very competitively against previous Haswell-based processors. They were great parts and I was glad to see Intel investing some money and resources in a community that most of us thought that it had written off.
Intel today offers another olive branch to our readers and fans.
"Take ye thine Skylake processor, with unlocketh overclock settings and DDR4 memory, and continueth innovation on the open and scalable platform. Eth."
Kindheartedness aside, Intel is in for the money: PC gaming continues to be big business. Game revenues are the largest form of software sales, gaming across all platforms leads all other forms of entertainment and that crazy eSport segment is expected to grow from 89M to 145M units by 2017.
And as any PC gamer knows, the PC is where the real innovation occurs. Yes, Xbox owners have the Kinect, but nearly every other noteworthy shift happens on the PC. Virtual reality, downloadable gaming, streaming gaming, free to play, etc. – these are all technologies and directions that were started or perfect on the PC. Intel wants to make sure they are part of that, and not just in a passive manner.
Let's first take a look at the specifications of the two new Skylake 6th Generation Intel Core processors launching today.
Core i7-6700K | Core i5-6600K | Core i7-5775C | Core i7-4790K | Core i7-4770K | Core i7-3770K | |
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Architecture | Skylake | Skylake | Broadwell | Haswell | Haswell | Ivy Bridge |
Process Tech | 14nm | 14nm | 14nm | 22nm | 22nm | 22nm |
Socket | LGA 1151 | LGA 1151 | LGA 1150 | LGA 1150 | LGA 1150 | LGA 1155 |
Cores/Threads | 4/8 | 4/4 | 4/8 | 4/8 | 4/8 | 4/8 |
Base Clock | 4.0 GHz | 3.5 GHz | 3.3 GHz | 4.0 GHz | 3.5 GHz | 3.5 GHz |
Max Turbo Clock | 4.2 GHz | 3.9 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 4.4 GHz | 3.9 GHz | 3.9 GHz |
Memory Tech | DDR4 | DDR4 | DDR3 | DDR3 | DDR3 | DDR3 |
Memory Speeds | Up to 2133 MHz | Up to 2133 MHz | Up to 1600 MHz | Up to 1600 MHz | Up to 1600 MHz | Up to 1600 MHz |
Cache (L4 Cache) | 8MB | 6MB | 6MB (128MB) | 8MB | 8MB | 8MB |
System Bus | DMI3 – 8.0 GT/s | DMI3 – 8.0 GT/s | DMI2 – 6.4 GT/s | DMI2 – 5.0 GT/s | DMI2 – 5.0 GT/s | DMI2 – 5.0 GT/s |
Graphics | HD Graphics 530 | HD Graphics 530 | Iris Pro 6200 | HD Graphics 4600 | HD Graphics 4600 | HD Graphics 4000 |
Max Graphics Clock | ? | ? | 1.15 GHz | 1.25 GHz | 1.25 GHz | 1.15 GHz |
TDP | 91W | 91W | 65W | 88W | 84W | 77W |
MSRP | $350 | $243 | $366 | $339 | $339 | $332 |
Based on the same 14nm process as Broadwell, a CPU architecture that only recently saw a release to the DIY builder (and only then in a pair of options), Skylake is still built around a quad-core, HyperThreading capable design. The base clock speed of 4.0 GHz matches that of the Core i7-4790K though the maximum Turbo clock rate of 4.2 GHz is 200 MHz slower than we saw on the Devil's Canyon part. Still, with reasonable IPC improvements from Haswell to Skylake, that matched clock speed should result in noticeable performance improvements.
One change that we did notice for the Skylake architecture is its move away from the FIVR, Fully Integrated Voltage Regulator. It was first introduced during the Haswell architecture disclosure and was touted as revolutionary, simplifying the board and platform design significantly. However with Broadwell we already saw some back peddling as Intel admitted having to by-pass the FIVR for ultra-low power implementations due to efficiency issues. This time the company says that removing it "enabled improved power efficiency" across a "much broader range of thermal design powers." This means that from 2-in-1s to desktop gaming PCs, the power delivery solution returns to the motherboard.
The biggest specification change (other than the new socket) is the move to DDR4 memory technology. Yes, Skylake will be able to support both DDR3L and DDR4. DDR3L integration will, with a few exceptions, only occur on low-cost solutions like notebooks and tablets. This marks the second consumer platform to integrate DDR4, following the release of Haswell-E and the X99 chipset nearly a year ago. Official specs limit the DDR4 memory speed to 2133 MHz but, in our testing with the new ASUS Z170-Deluxe motherboard and memory from Corsair and G.Skill, getting 3400 MHz is definitely possible.
The system bus design has also been upgraded this time; we are now on the third revision of DMI with a bump in performance to 8.0 GT/s, which is equivalent to x4 lanes of PCI Express 3.0. This upgrade in bandwidth turns out to be incredibly useful for platform builders like ASUS that can take advantages of up to 20 lanes of PCIe 3.0 on the Z170 chipset itself! That means new storage options, configurations and more expandability for the non-E level of processors from Intel.
The integrated graphics on Skylake are drastically improved though the details on how they are doing it are still a mystery until we get to IDF. Our IGP test shows nearly 50% performance improvements for the Intel HD Graphics 530 compared to the HD Graphics 4600 on Haswell. As it turns out, Broadwell and the Core i7-5775C with its Iris Pro graphics and eDRAM implementation are still going to blow the Core i7-6700K out of the water, but more on that later.
Thermal levels of the Core i7-6700K rest at 91 watts, just a handful higher than the Core i7-4790K and 4770K. The Core i7-5775C is much lower thanks to a lower clock speed set. The important thing here is that Skylake scales well up to this TDP level and provides excellent performance along the way. The fear of having Intel completely abandon the DIY market with process tech and CPU designs that are only geared for low-power implementations has been alleviated for at least one more generation.
Finally, look at that price. With the Core i7-4790K selling today for $339, Intel is listing the tray price of the Core i7-6700K at $350! And, after the initial launch excitement, you can expect this price to settle another $10-20 down. Of course this will require you to upgrade your motherboard as well as your system memory so the total upgrade cost is going to be higher but Intel seems to be reaching out olive branches in several areas with today's announcement. I know more than a handful of PC gamers that will be using this opportunity to upgrade from aging Sandy Bridge / Ivy Bridge systems so the price to entry is a welcome data point.
Though I am focusing on the Core i7-6700K for today's story as that was the sample we were sent, Intel is also pushing out a Core i5-6600K today with a price of $243. That CPU will run four cores without HyperThreading, a base clock of 3.5 GHz and a maximum Turbo clock of 3.9 GHz. Other than the 6MB of cache (as opposed to 8MB) the rest of the specifications and capabilities remain unchanged.
What about x265? The
What about x265? The dedicated hardware for HEVC is one of the biggest selling points for those of us looking to do next gen encoding.
What about it? My guess is
What about it? My guess is that it’s like Carrizo: it is present and it works. Other than testing that it functions, it’s not like there is any real benchmark to perform.
It “functions” on basically
It “functions” on basically all relatively modern hardware. The question is how much of an improvement is there in performance with dedicated encoders built in vs just throwing a bunch of cores at it? And I would love to see some comparison involving GPU encoding, both with the similarly hardware supported GTX 960 or 950, with a non-hardware encoding equipped GPU like an AMD or earlier nvidia part.
Basically, now that we have a couple CPU’s & GPU’s with full hardware support for HEVC/H.265/x265, vs the hybrid/partial, and full software options, I’d love to see some serious benchmarking to give us an idea of what kind of performance gains we could see, and how much horsepower we would have to throw at a media encoding box to handle HEVC encoding practically.
Quality is a big question
Quality is a big question there, also. How does the output of the dedicated encoder look in comparison to the output from CPU cores and GPU cores?
Why they didn’t include AMD’s
Why they didn’t include AMD’s Carrizo in this skylake review is because it would mean that Intel iGPU hasn’t gone as far as we were all lead to believe. You gotta love the PC perspective team hating all things AMD !
And which carrizo can you buy
And which carrizo can you buy for desktop and on what motherboard are they working?
Well the same argument holds
Well the same argument holds for broadwell which was included…
x265 isn’t ready for users,
x265 isn’t ready for users, yet as it’s still in very active development. x264 is strongly recommended until x265 gets into better shape. I don’t believe that x265 uses HEVC hardware acceleration rather it competes with it.
CPU performance improvement
CPU performance improvement is better than I expected. GPU improvement is as I expected. Nice part.
I still don’t feel any urgent need to upgrade my Nehalem 920 or Sandy 2600k.
That’s one gas guzzler.
That’s one gas guzzler.
If the price in Europe would
If the price in Europe would be reasonable for the i7 this would be a must have upgrade, as it stands right now i5 6600k is going for 250 euro, while the i7 4700k is going for 389 at cheapest, the damn i7 5820k is the exact same price it’s almost 150 euro price difference WTF is wrong with them
The real question is, how
The real question is, how does a 5GHz i7-2700K compare to a 4.3GHz 17-6700K. Since the OC headroom on Skylake will probably top out there…
Nevermind – HardOCP got
Nevermind – HardOCP got theirs to 4.7GHz…
my POV-RAY test was
my POV-RAY test was 4665.59PPS on a 2700k 5ghz v1.475v HT=on.
Cinebench 11.5 was9.42
trucrypt AES=4.6 and twofish=386
We’ve all heard the all of
We’ve all heard the all of two instances of overclocking pre-release samples of the 6700K on air, now let’s get some actual release samples out there to handle all the basic scenarios;
24×7 on air
24×7 on water
Max OC on air
Max OC on water
Max OC on LN2
these are all release/retail
these are all release/retail samples intel did not send any es out this time and from what people are seeing 4,7ghz for the i7 sku is about avarage
The stories I’ve seen claimed
The stories I’ve seen claimed 5.0 & 5.2
kitguru has an article on
kitguru has an article on somebody using LN2 to get 6.5 ghz…
Maybe it’s time for Sandy
Maybe it’s time for Sandy Bridge users to upgrade, but people used to be in X58 either jumped in X99 already or still waiting for Skylake-E, instead of going to a “downgraded” platform.
And now the wait for the
And now the wait for the Skylake Pentium and Skylake Celeron begins…
I still dont understand why
I still dont understand why they keep including igpu on the i7 (non mobile) product line. if you’re going the htpc route a i5 or i3 seeing that 4k decoding isn’t exactly taxing on processors anymore. also glad to see voltage regulation back where it belongs. thb this seems to be what should have followed up the 4770k or the 2600k for that matter (excluding nm) the fact that it’s taken then so long to implement some real change is disappointing.
and you know they had been sitting on at least part of this for a fair bit of time, seeing how long they could hose us for. at least it releases with a good msrp, too bad you have to replace pretty much everything lol. it’s like they have a pack with board venders, to change the socket as frequently as possible.
The iGPU is still useful for
The iGPU is still useful for quicksync (think game streaming) or running a second/third monitor that doesnt hang off the GPU/SLI configuration so it can be powered down when using social media/web
1.4v seems awfully high to
1.4v seems awfully high to me. Has Intel given any guidance on a “safe” voltage for these chips? Even if you can get it stable, if it’s fried in 6 months that’s no help to anyone. Can the chips really take that sort of voltage consistently?
1.32-1.4 is the normal stock
1.32-1.4 is the normal stock operating voltage on the 6700k when it is turbo boosting to 4.2 GHz. Anandtech was able to undervolt his samples to 1.20volts @ 4.3 Ghz, though which is likely what I’ll be doing with my watercooling setup. I’m hoping for 4.4 Ghz at or below 1.30v.
What’s the point of
What’s the point of watercooling if you’re undervolting? You could probably even get away with a passive cooler
Why is idle power consumption
Why is idle power consumption so high?
Do you know when retailers
Do you know when retailers will start selling Sky Lake CPUs
This is starting to look like
This is starting to look like a paper launch.
I was under the impression
I was under the impression that DX12 will leverage the CPU’s integrated graphics in tandem with a discrete graphics card. Similar to what AMD had previously “highly” touted with mantle.
Wouldn’t this feature make Broadwell the better choice for gamers over Skylake in relation to game performance?
I didn’t see your comment
I didn’t see your comment earlier and posted a similar one farther down.
No reviewer I have seen, yet, has brought up this point. I would like to see a comparison on just the integrated graphics since DirectX 12 will be utilizing it.
I posted a link to the article that I read on this in my comment.
half the chip is useless. Who
half the chip is useless. Who buys this cpu and uses the built in gfx ??
If there was a competitive alternative Intel would not be able to sell a chip where 50% of the die is not used.
True, the die space would
True, the die space would have been better spent on increasing PCIe lanes and/or adding more cores. 6 core skylake with 40pcie lanes anyone? OR just keep the four cores and pcie lanes as-is, and reduce the price?
Haswell-E is now 2 generations behind (>broadwell>skylake). Big differentiator? you dont have to pay for a GPU that you will never use and get more PCIe lanes so you can run more than just one x16 device. Say you want to have 2 GPU’s, a sound card and a coupleof NVMe PCIe, or 10GB PCIe card, etc.
SoC’s have their place, but not as an enthusiast or gamer part. amiright.
Now that Intel owns Altera
Now that Intel owns Altera they could put an FPGA and make a compiler to accelerate parts of code by 100X or so.
That would be a lot more useful than the integrated GPU but that will be on E5 and E7 Xeons way before their small desktop chip.
Unless they sell them as E3 Xeons for hyperscalers.
I would expect several of
I would expect several of these test (IGP gaming, streaming apps, etc) to bandwidth sensitive. It could be that some of the differences are due to bandwidth improvements rather than any actual core improvements. You could be testing the difference between DDR4-2133 and DDR3-1600 more than anything else.
It still seems to be the case
It still seems to be the case that it has significantly more PCI-e bandwidth in the chipset than can be up linked to the CPU.
As mentioned by ‘nevzim’, I
As mentioned by ‘nevzim’, I was also wondering, in this day and age, especially with the 14nm fab, why is the idle power consumption so high (with SSD)?!
Even the load at almost 150watts is pretty ridiculous.
Can the author confirm if these figures are without the monitor and without discrete GPU?
where i can see “widi ” ?
where i can see “widi ” ? or 166 mhz ?
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Nicely done review. But I
Nicely done review. But I don’t see any compelling evidence to make me feel bad about my Haswell-E. At all. In fact, If I were on an older i7, I might still wait to see what’s over the next hill.
It’s a significant jump, but not a compelling one. I think we’ll be into a next generation of HW in maybe another 2-5 years. Call it 2020. And I’m thinking that “faster” may have to give way more to “efficient”.