Okay, we see a lot of monitors here at PC Perspective…but this is probably the current "most coveted" of them all. The ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q looks nearly identical to the first generation ROG Swift display but with a couple of key modifications. Yes, this is still a 27-in 2560×1440 monitor but this time…oh this time…it holds a 165 Hz IPS screen.
Moving away from the world of TN screens and into the image-quality-improvement of IPS, the PG279Q not only brings ASUS' first G-Sync capable IPS 2560×1440 panel to the world but also ups the ante more than any other screen we have seen when it comes to the maximum refresh rate: this beast will top out at 165 Hz! High performance gamers that have taken to the 144 Hz market will surely see the advantages of stepping up yet again though I am curious how ASUS is able to drive an IPS screen at this speed without artifacts or issues.
Interestingly, this panel not only includes a DisplayPort connection for 165 Hz 2560×1440 throughput but also an HDMI 1.4a input that can run 2560×1440 at 60 Hz, should you need that kind of thing. If you prefer ULMB over G-Sync, you have that option as well.
I'm not sure yet, but I can feel Allyn's trigger finger on the BUY NOW button…if it existed. We don't have pricing and we don't have any update on availability, but if our past experiences with the ROG Swift line are any indication, I have a feeling this display is going to impress.
OMG I was waiting for this
OMG I was waiting for this thing, can’t believe Asus was able to go pass 144Hz way to go!!
being g-sync we know it will
being g-sync we know it will work at 165hz and not limited to 90hz.
“cue the amd fan rage”
Nvidia makes sure games cant
Nvidia makes sure games cant go beyond 90hz anyways with GameWorks.
This is an insanely ignorant
This is an insanely ignorant comment, free sync ranges from 9hz to 240hz, not 90, and gsync only supports 30hz through 144hz, so it will be limited and unsupported at 165hz.
This is an insanely ignorant
This is an insanely ignorant comment: “free sync ranges from 9hz to 240hz, not 90, and gsync only supports 30hz through 144hz, so it will be limited and unsupported at 165hz.“
FTFY.
Its funny when one person
Its funny when one person calls another ignorant but then proceeds to talk showing he himself has no damn clue about what he is talking about.
and do tell me which freeSync
and do tell me which freeSync monitors carry that exact range.
Exactly!
AMD USER
Exactly!
AMD USER classification>:
-entitled
– most likely Millenials
– think that everything should be free
– entitled
– entitled
Samsung Wins Court Case
Samsung Wins Court Case Against NVIDIA Patent Infringement Accusations, and now the Green Goblin Gimper has had one of its questionable patents ruled invalid, and the other 2 not infringed upon, the questionable patent is nonenforceable!
This Just in Nvidia sues the entire nation of Canada for infringing on Nvidia’s Butter Chip placed on top of pancakes with maple syrup patent!
Ugh, still 16:9. No thanks.
Ugh, still 16:9. No thanks.
What would you like to see?
What would you like to see?
4:3 for smaller monitors
4:3 for smaller monitors (below 30 inches or so) and 16:10 or 3:2 for larger monitors. Computer monitors are not televisions, and should not be discarding more usable aspect ratios to blindly follow the television.
2002 called and they want
2002 called and they want their monitor back.
Well they aren’t going to get
Well they aren’t going to get it back, at least not until 2015 rediscovers correct aspect ratios.
Newer doesn’t always mean that it’s better.
16:9/16:10 is the correct
16:9/16:10 is the correct aspect ratio for a gaming monitor. If you are just looking at pictures or maybe watching TV shows then 4:3 is fine. For gaming it narrows the possible FOV down to like 50 or 60 max. Anything less than 90 hurts my eyes and completely kills the immersion.
Is there really any point in
Is there really any point in pushing past 144hz?
I’d rather see them put effort into quality control (based on the reviews I’ve been reading)
No point since 1/144 is
No point since 1/144 is barely noticeable improvement over 1/165.
We would probably need to jump into 240Hz range to even notice change.
Same question about 120hz >
Same question about 120hz > 144hz. Not sure why 144hz became the number, but I don’t think you’d find anyone that could tell the difference between the two or from 120hz > 165hz. Eventually you get to a point where you need a large gain if you’re going to notice just a smidgen of improvement.
Clearly it’s diminishing
Clearly it’s diminishing benefits above 60 Hz and from 120->144->165 Hz. That doesn’t mean monitor manufacturers shouldn’t push for higher refresh rates. Any refresh rate above ~60-75 gives smooth motion with adaptive sync. Going higher is ONLY about reduced motion blur. The fact that ULMB mode at 120 Hz is popular among CS:GO players means that 120 Hz non ULMB still has improvements on motion blur possible. Adaptive sync is incompatible with a strobed backlight, so going above 144 Hz will still improve motion blur. I would guess ~250 Hz would be the point where motion blur becomes a non issue for non-strobed displays.
Check out http://www.blurbusters.com/ for additional information on the motion blur side of adaptive sync and high refresh rates.
144 is 24 more than 120. It’s
144 is 24 more than 120. It’s a multiple of 24fps(film) thing.
It’s because it’s the next
It’s because it’s the next multiple of 24, and 24hz/FPS is what cinema is shot in.
That way it means that the frames sync up and you don’t get frame stuttering whilst watching 24fps content.
Sweclockers saw a marginally
Sweclockers saw a marginally sharper picture at 165Hz, however the trail (for lack of a better word) behind fast moving objects is lesser at 120Hz compared to 144 and 165Hz.
http://cdn.sweclockers.com/artikel/bild/37604?l=eyJyZXNvdXJjZSI6IlwvYXJ0aWtlbFwvYmlsZFwvMzc2MDQiLCJmaWx0ZXJzIjpbIndtIiwidD1vcmlnaW5hbCJdLCJwYXJhbXMiOltdLCJrZXkiOiIwOGRkMDhiZmRiOGZlMGZjMDk2YzY1NThlMjVlZDI5NSJ9
Well that’s an interesting
Well that’s an interesting result. Clearly Asus/Nvidia chose 165 Hz as the upper limit due to reaching physical limits of the IPS panel. Hopefully additional reviews (TFT Central maybe) show 165 Hz with a slight lead in motion blur and low ghosting. Otherwise, Asus/Nvidia messed up in setting the refresh rate limit at 165 Hz.
Here’s a link to the original article:
http://www.sweclockers.com/test/21139-asus-rog-swift-pg279q-kvalitetsgaming-med-165-hz-och-g-sync/5
Looking at the article a bit more, it’s unclear what camera settings they are using for their blur busters tests. I haven’t looked in depth at proper shutter times or if replicate images need to be captured at each setting. For their ULMB tests, it looks like each image is collecting light from multiple refreshes of the display. Trying to distinguish between the 144 Hz and 165 Hz refresh modes might need more careful setup of their camera equipment.
Lower input lag.
Lower input lag.
Monitor is an output device,
Monitor is an output device, how can it lower input lag?
Heh, that other input lag:
Heh, that other input lag: gpu output to monitor input.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/input_lag.htm
Looks really really good…
Looks really really good… torn between getting this or waiting for the 3440×1440 IPS 100 Hz display. I guess resale value will be so good on this monitor that waiting on the ultrawide is probably the best choice. Although, a VA type panel with better blacks and contrast would also be nice if spending >$700 on a monitor. Sigh. Even when a curved 3440×1440 AMVA 144 Hz monitor is released for <$1000, OLED monitors will be on the horizon. Pushing beyond 144 Hz is only for reduced motion blur both on the desktop and in games. When I played Dragon Age: Inquisition on a 1080p G-sync monitor with a GTX 970 I tuned settings for ~75 fps. Below that frame rate, I found the motion blur became distracting during camera panning. If I could run the game at 165 Hz with 165 fps, the motion blur would be a non-issue even at much higher panning speeds. A fast paced shooter like Overwatch will definitely benefit from 165 Hz and ULMB.
This a comment to express my
This a comment to express my desire for this panel.
Hm. I may consider replacing
Hm. I may consider replacing my last ROG (the TN-panel version of this) from February… with this… Maybe… I dunno. Maybe I’ll give it another year and see what else shakes out in the industry.
You mean yours is still
You mean yours is still going? Amazing!
Mine died a few weeks ago, Got the dreaded green flicker and blurry text on one half of the screen that many others have got.
These new screens better have their QA sorted this time, The ROG swift failure rate was huge and still on going as people’s screens are starting to crap out.
Still no HDMI 2.0?
What’s the
Still no HDMI 2.0?
What’s the holdup with that, anyway?
I really want to win this
I really want to win this monitor from Pcper… Maybe in the back of a new car!
Does VRR even make a
Does VRR even make a difference at that frame rate? When I run my CRT at 160hz+ (with no VRR), I don’t notice any stuttering or tearing anyway
I would love importing this
I would love importing this monitor but it having HDMI means I would need to pay an extra 50% in taxes, instead of the 13% a computer monitor without HDMI would pay.
FreeSync is getting more and
FreeSync is getting more and more attention every day. In 6 months we have more FreeSync monitors, in more sizes, panel types, aspect ratios, resolutions, you name it, than GSync managed to have in 2 years.
So Nvidia had to do something to differentiate further GSync.
“Ah,… here have 21Hz extra. It will only cost you $150 more. Maybe $250 in this case, because you know those 21Hz makes all the difference.”
Thanks for convincing me that
Thanks for convincing me that a Fury is a terrible buy a few months ago; because of your actions I am now fully ready to adopt this panel.
LOL, nice one.
LOL, nice one.
hope people enjoy paying for
hope people enjoy paying for 144hz panel but get locked to 90hz max. since well can’t do more then that without ghosting problems.
I love your stupidity. It
I love your stupidity. It reaches new highs every time you post.
Why are you so butt hurt over
Why are you so butt hurt over this?
In your dreams.
In your dreams.
Dude you really do live in
Dude you really do live in your own little world huh.
Yeap, it’s called reality and
Yeap, it’s called reality and there are about 6-7 billion others living in it too.
Nah you just saying that to
Nah you just saying that to your self. You need to seek mental help…
And yet the only one which
And yet the only one which actually works from 30-144 Hz with ovedrive is Benq 2730Z
Display Port Adaptive Sync is
Display Port Adaptive Sync is getting more and more attention every day, “FreeSync” is just a hollow marketing term, when the name of the technology is VESA(1) Display Port Adaptive Sync(TM). If you look on the monitor most will have the Display Port Adaptive Sync sticker on them. this “FreeSync” is now adopted by VESA and branded VESA Display Port Adaptive Sync(TM)!
(1) Video Electronics Standards Association(VESA)
…and with all of those
…and with all of those freesync panels, not a single one we've tested has had proper VRR overdrive combined with a good panel. You'd figure they would get it right by now.
Allyn, If I get two of those
Allyn, If I get two of those ASUS PG279Qs and put them in front of you, hiding everything but the part of the screen and tell you that one of them is a FreeSync monitor, you will definitely find problems on that one and almost perfect the other one.
Yup, the captures for the
Yup, the captures for the 'freesync' model would just magically show ghosting, even though the process we follow to test (and show) that are the same every time.
(/sarcasm)
You might try to actually read those reviews through instead of just crapping all over the comments.
You’re right Allyn, I’ve been
You’re right Allyn, I’ve been looking into this for 2 friends with AMD hardware that are non tech savvy but also want VRR monitors and so far haven’t found a good one for them with what they want.
Yeah they saw and played on my Gsync 1440p 144hz IPS panel a number of times and want similar.
For you rabit crazed red blind AMD fanboys out there, no there isnt an equal freesync panel with similar specs and quality of the Gsync ones so STFU
GSync all the way, fuck
GSync all the way, fuck freesync cheap garbage
Yup, I’m rocking on ACER
Yup, I’m rocking on ACER Predator XB270HU 2560x1440p 144hz Gsync IPS since launch and loving it. I might switch to this one later in the year or next.
Buy an expensive monitor and
Buy an expensive monitor and be chained to a single GPU manufacturer for the next 10 years? No thanks.
Yeah, considering how
Yeah, considering how incompetent AMD is and how evil Nvidia is, the last thing I’d want is to be chained to one of them and have no recourse when they do something unpleasant.
And at/near 165hz, stuttering and tearing are already so diminished that it’s not worth paying the $100 premium for gsync.
ATM “freesync” is locked to
ATM “freesync” is locked to AMD so reality is on their side its same thing.
It’s not exactly “locked to
It’s not exactly “locked to AMD” so much as it is that no other GPU manufacturer has decided to support it (for now – maybe Intel will tip the balance). “Locked to AMD” implies that it is AMD’s decision to lock it down, which is not the case.
But that’s just nitpicking. In the end, it’s still a shitty situation whichever way you go, and it really turns me off from upgrading. Hopefully my CRTs will last me until the industry sorts this out (and until OLED becomes standard).
It is so locked that Intel is
It is so locked that Intel is going to support it and Nvidia might also end up having no other option that supporting it too, keeping GSync as a premium option for morons who believe all the BS people like you write.
Display Port Adaptive Sync is
Display Port Adaptive Sync is a VESA standard, so Intel will support that standard, and Others will also! While the Green Goblin Gimpers will continue to gimp that asynchronous compute in the hardware. GSync is just another form of Nvidia vendor lock-in!
Enjoy your intel supported
Enjoy your intel supported gaming 😉 They might reach levels of current top end cards somewhere in 2030-2040.
You are missing the point.
You are missing the point. With every Intel motherboard having a Displayport with Adaptive Sync support, Adaptive Sync will become the de facto standard in zero time.
Doesnt matter idiot, you cant
Doesnt matter idiot, you cant game decently with Intel graphics and nobody will notice the difference with it or without it because they can barely squeeze above 20fps with everything on low
This is not about Intel’s
This is not about Intel’s lack of GPU power relative to AMD and Nvidia, its about a VESA standard and its adoption by the various CPU/GPU/SOC/Display makers. Display Port Adaptive Sync is in the VESA display standard from now on. And future gaming will rely more on the GPU to run the none graphics gaming code, as well as the graphics code with the lowest latency possible. It’s no wonder Oculus and AMD are partnering with VR, as AMD has full hardware asynchronous compute support on its GPUs. More game code accelerated on the GPU will reduce latency that is intrinsic when CPUs try to communicate with discrete GPUs for graphics/non graphics gaming workloads. Most Monitor manufacturers will adopt the VESA standards or lose sales.
Intel won’t jump on that
Intel won't jump on that bandwagon until the vast majority of freesync panels out there are using mature scalers (proper overdrive being a requirement there). From what I know of Intel, they are not fond of adopting something that is incomplete or unequal to competing technology.
Well I can’t stop you from
Well I can’t stop you from dreaming that Intel will stay out of this. DX12 was incomplete when they where showing it with Microsoft running on Intel iGPUs but nevermind.
100% agree, well said Allyn.
100% agree, well said Allyn.
We’ll see how long that “zero
We’ll see how long that “zero time” will be 5-10 years maybe lol
Love all these cleared vision future seeing retards post fud on all these tech forums 😀
Nice little fantasy world you live in. Do unicorns also poop fruity flavored ice cream for you?
You love them because they
You love them because they are your kind.
As for your fantasies with unicorns, poor kid, you must have passed really bad childhood to imagine things like that.
Delusional and ignorant
Delusional and ignorant fanboy response, no point wasting time on you but keep going for the sake of your imagination and in your head righteousness lmfao xD
LOL keep assuming its
LOL keep assuming its hilarious you internet fanboys and trolls
There is no FreeSync,
There is no FreeSync, FreeSync was adopted and renamed to Display Port Adaptive Sync(TM) by the VESA standards body! It’s Display Port Adaptive Sync, and it is adopted VESA standard so many display makers/others will use/adopt the VESA standard.
While some Posters(arbiter) have earned themselves a reputation as no nothing Gits! Your constant FUD with respect to AMD makes you another chizow!
lol, what became of chizow?
lol, what became of chizow?
LOL you only upgrade every 10
LOL you only upgrade every 10 years??? And you come to tech sites like this, pls there is the door cheapskate –>>>
For us PC Enthusiasts we sell our equipment and at least upgrade a few components every year. So go as long as 3-4 years before upgrading everything but with Graphics cards almost yearly man.
If you’re a PC Gamer (Hardcore) you upgrade your graphics card once a year or at least within 3 years jeez.
All these cheatskate AMD fanboys throwing there BS to justify their broke ass systems.
I’m really bummed it’s not
I’m really bummed it’s not larger then 34″
All you NV hater bottom feeding millenial’s entitle little shits can continue to envy and want. Get a job and work. Nothing is free in this word!
“Get a job and work. Nothing
“Get a job and work. Nothing is free in this word!”
I agree, you get what you pay for. Anyone who is truly serious about displays should be using the Sony BVM-X300 or similar, not some cheap consumer display like this Asus.
There are already 40”
There are already 40” Freesync capable monitors, but don’t worry, people envy GSync. Just don’t stop repeating it. Because ignorance is bliss.
And who the fuck are you? AMD
And who the fuck are you? AMD VIP COO w/e? I like to see you still keeping up this parade for AMD when they gone in a year, fucking fat armchair think you know shit loser.
I want Samsung to come in or Qualcomm to start make dGPU’s cuz incompetent AMD has been shit for a loooooong time, fucking for years!
I love all your posts.
I love all your posts. Hilarious. Thanks for the laughs.
Love yours too, making the
Love yours too, making the AMD fanboys look so far beyond looking ridiculous its just clowning around and trolling now. Keep going we need some of you on every tech site to represent AMD’s stupididty.
You mad?
You mad?
LOL, that the best you can do
LOL, that the best you can do now?
Trying to win the internet
Trying to win the internet LOLOL whata you an idiot with mental issues
Loving your double posts, but
Loving your double posts, but you might want to consider going to sleep, to relax a little.
No need, I make my money
No need, I make my money online. You on the other hand are just a pathetic fanboy with no life.
If someone looks my post and
If someone looks my post and what you posted as a response, it’s easy to come to the conclusion that you are a payed poster, in this case an easy to guess company payed you to attack people online, people with different opinions than those favoring that company.
No surprises here. Probably being a payed poster is the only way for you to make money in your life.
Man you still posting? And
Man you still posting? And assuming & guessing what random people online do or are? No-lifer confirmed.
Oh really? I posted in one
Oh really? I posted in one article at PCPer, because it was fun to feed this troll and you come at this conclusion? Funny. By the way, I spent 5 minutes to answer to that moron every day. Is 5 minutes a day what you consider life? I hope not.
Or maybe you where posting all these BS as an anonymous poster these past days and now you come with your real nickname to give credibility to all this crap? This could be a possibility.
Hey Ryan, thanks for the
Hey Ryan, thanks for the info…
My main impression of the first generation ROG Swift display is that it should have remained in the virtual world of schematics and lame, half-baked ideas.
I hope the PG279Q goes ROGue and for the right reasons, becoming worth money and time.
Sincerely,
Joseph
P.S. I have not been by this site for a while, but do occasionally keep you and yours in prayer… peace and love in Christ.
Not sure where you’re coming
Not sure where you're coming from with that. At the time of its launch, the original ROG Swift was the highest ranked VRR display on pretty much every display review site, and was sold out constantly for a long time due to such high demand. Better displays came along later but at its launch it was the clear winner. If anything it pushed the competition to release their products sooner.
Having owned an ROG I must
Having owned an ROG I must say that I agree with both of you…….
I am now a proud owner of an XB270HU
Same, best out there. If you
Same, best out there. If you want 1440p 144hz IPS VRR monitor.
Freesync doesnt even compare.
Also the highest failure
Also the highest failure rate!
All the first batches with serial numbers starting with E7,E8,E9 are now failing.
EXACTLY!
what the fuck are
EXACTLY!
what the fuck are you guys talking about. Most of the “issues” “users” were claiming to have were user error.
I bought the ROG swift PG278Q right when it came out. Bought it at Frys, plugged it in and it is ROCK SOLID. going for over a year now and ZERO issues.
The “ISSUE” are these fan boys crop dusting misinformation
Truth
Truth
Give it time it will die just
Give it time it will die just like mine and all the others! lol
I wish there was a monitor
I wish there was a monitor that supported both freesync and Gsync. Currently I have an Nvidia GPU, but I don’t want to be committed to nvidia for the next 5+ years.
Getting this as its the best
Getting this as its the best and established VRR solution out there for over a year now, together with Nvidia GPU’s which have far better software support and on top of that the bigger market share so it will get supported more by developers.
Already on a GTX980 Ti on water overclocked easily over 1500Mhz core 24/7 running on a 1440p IPS 144hz Gsync and impressed. Even my friends that dont have the monet for this gear came over to play on my setup up and are overly impressed and are saving to get this.
AMD fanboys are just fucking toxic and have nothing better to do because their brand loyalty overrules their rational thinking!
“better software
“better software support”
Remind me again which company it was that released drivers that literally destroyed video cards? Hint: it wasn’t AMD.
Im talking about recent
Im talking about recent years. The company has come a long way. If you dumb AMD fanboys keep bringing up old not relevant issues shows how pathetic your way of thinking is. Now begone you troll
Oh, you want more recent
Oh, you want more recent issues? How about the stability issues with Nvidia drivers on Windows 10 (although I don’t know why anyone would be using that botnet of an OS)?
“The company has come a long way.”
So has AMD (and Intel for that matter). But people who stick to one brand would never see that.
Nvidia consistently rushes out unstable and unfinished drivers, while AMD releases stable drivers far too late and infrequently. Don’t try to claim that either company is perfect.
Have fun playing games on
Have fun playing games on linux then while the rest of the pc gamers play the upcoming new releases not to mention DX12 titles soon and next year.
over 81% market share hmmmm
over 81% market share hmmmm yeah most people still want the better product ignorant fanboy. Stay on your cheap hardware with crappy software support while the rest of us play all our games to its fullest.
By that reasoning, Mcdonalds
By that reasoning, Mcdonalds is the highest-quality food in the world, and you should discard your gaming PC for a smartphone and angry birds, since those are far more popular.
For the record, I don’t even use AMD, I’m on an Intel integrated GPU because the only games worth playing are old enough to run on anything these days.
No point arguing with a broke
No point arguing with a broke ass like you that cant even afford a decent gaming pc with latest tech like VRR.
Bringing food into a tech
Bringing food into a tech discussion lol no point reasoning with this idiot.
Been waiting for a monitor
Been waiting for a monitor with these specs for a long time. My hope is that they can maintain a slightly higher level QC on these monitors. Might get one for Christmas.
Religion = Fanboyism
Enough
Religion = Fanboyism
Enough said.