Of the total PC market Windows holds just over 90%, Linux 1.57% and Mac around 8% which is about what it was a year ago. The release of Windows 10 has not created a surge in Microsoft users, nor has it caused the migration to Linux that so many claimed they would do after the EoL of Windows XP. Worse news for Microsoft is that there are more people using Windows 7 than there were 12 months ago, 55.71% compared to 53.05%. Even Windows 8 users are not shifting in any significant amount, 13.22% compared to 16.8% last year. Even with the dearth of new hardware to spur an upgrade cycle the numbers show that consumers have little to no interest in updating to Microsoft's newest platform. Perhaps the negative press surrounding some of the contentious features which Microsoft introduced in the new OS have harmed the upgrade cycle in addition to the lack of a driving reason to do a full system upgrade. For more on these interesting times in the PC market you can check the original story at The Inquirer.
"Things are almost stagnant elsewhere, which is a worry because it seems that, although Windows 10 is gaining ground, very slightly, it doesn't seem to be at the significant expense of anything else."
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From a license (sales)
From a license (sales) perspective I would expect numbers to be skewed a bit since it is approx. $60 cheaper to buy a Windows 7 license and upgrade to Windows 10 for free.
The cheapest path to Windows
The cheapest path to Windows 10 is to buy a license for Windows 8 for about 20 bucks and upgrade to 10. The thing is most users don’t know how to get the cheap licenses and simply buy retail, or balk at buying retail.
All those forced 10 downloads
All those forced 10 downloads erased, and 7 is the last M$ OS that will get large market share! NO to 10 for the spying, NO to the forced downloads, and NO Forced non-security updates! I hope they keep track of the Steam OS based systems come November 10. Hopefully Vulkan will allow for many to remain on 7, while they transition to Steam OS.
It blows my mind sometimes
It blows my mind sometimes what Microsoft is thinking. The addressed the failures of Windows 8/8.1 with Windows 10 only to go even further down the rabbit hole with forced updates and a bunch of sketchy things enabled if you don’t manually go through the process of disabling them, or just unplug your internet when you install the OS.
I mean hell, they didn’t think it through that maybe you don’t want drivers from WU to automatically download and maybe what to block some updates. Now that’s a third-party add-on to get that ability back. Just more silly to come when you treat an Operating System as a Software as a Service.
DX12 isn’t worth the upgrade anytime soon for the mass majority of people.
Spying…HAHAHA take off your
Spying…HAHAHA take off your foil hat. They don’t care about any data that you have. They and almost EVERY other digital platform use your usage statistics for metrics and future marketing ideas. Windows 10 has been great so far. It is cleaned up, intuitive, and to the average person even simple to get rid of the forced updates. Enjoy DX11 on Windows 7..
Vulkan on 7, then a
Vulkan on 7, then a transition to Steam OS, so long M$, smell your stinky clouds later!
Oh the “tin foil” hat joke
Oh the “tin foil” hat joke again. What a surprise coming from someone who probably crucified people as “conspiracy theorists” when they said the government was spying on them until Edward Snowden revealed it as fact. Even with proof you’d deny the truth as if everyone in this world never does anything for nefarious reasons, but can be easily misconstrued as such.
Seriously though, what are you talking about they don’t care about your data? Microsoft, Apple, and Google to name a few, make BILLIONS off user data. Please tell me you were being ditsy because that’s just idiotic to assume that companies don’t depend on your data when that’s probably the most valuable asset they have. Tracking customers is essential to business.
WHO CARES ABOUT DX12!? Stop using that as an excuse for why Windows 10 rulz. It doesn’t even matter and isn’t even close to being relevant in the discussion. Besides what we’ve “heard” and “seen” from developer demo’s, we really don’t know what it’ll bring to the table. I remember seeing the most jaw dropping Unreal Engine 3 demo’s just 4 years ago (Samaritan Demo). Show me an UE3 game that comes close to that…I’ll wait here. Oh that’s right, marketing. Until DX12 is completely flooding the market it’s not even in the discussion. Even then it isn’t like games wont be backwards compatible if you knew a single thing about DirectX. You aren’t going to see DX12 only games for a long, looooooooooong time.
Just goes to show how many
Just goes to show how many Tin Foil hat users in the world there are. Too many clinging to old tech, afraid to try new tech or just plain lazy to learn.
I’m afraid you’re too plain
I’m afraid you’re too plain lazy to make any convincing arguments as to why Win10 suddenly needs to shove anything down your throat and literally take screenshots to send home at frequent intervals
>that there are more people using Windows 7 than there were 12 months ago, 55.71% compared to 53.05%
My sides are in outer space, good job Microsoft
“and literally take
“and literally take screenshots to send home at frequent intervals”
This doesn’t actually happen. Even in the Tech Insider builds that have extensive metric collection (hint: the retail builds do not) there are no ‘screenshots sent home’.
Poor analysis. If you had all
Poor analysis. If you had all the historical data, my bet it is would show many those “afraid of new tech” people were fast to make the jumps to Win XP and Win 7 at the time.
The obvious difference is that those were examples of operating systems that represented genuine improvements and value to their users.
Win 7 appears to be the last O/S developed for which the team’s primary objective was “how do we make a better o/s for our users?”
By contrast Win 8/10 are very obviously driven by “How do we monetize our users, even at the expense of their productivity and privacy.” Of course intelligent, aware users are at no hurry to migrate at their own hassle and expense.
Then there’s also the fact that for each of the major programs / games I use, there are threads covering cases where certain Win 10 drivers do not yet perform correctly. I see no such complaints for Win 7. The cases usually affect only a minority of users but still why take any risk of downside in exchange for no upside.
I’ll disagree. For me, the
I’ll disagree. For me, the performance of Windows 8 Pro was substantially better on the same hardware compared to Windows 7 Pro, so much so that I upgraded all of my 7 machines this past winter even though I knew 10 was coming. Going to 8 Pro for me was a glorious change for the better.
The new 8 ‘features’ weren’t an issue because all of my 8 systems got adjusted to behave and act as much like Windows 7 as they could. I’ve done the same thing with 10 now.
And in all my actual use cases, I am seeing much lower BSOD rates (like zero), much better memory usage, faster response times across all applications, and generally very few issues. All of that came from updating to 8 Pro. There has been only a slight improvement going from 8 to 10.
NO amount of spin is going to
NO amount of spin is going to get people to give up and switch to Spy-ware/Shovel-Poop-Ware 10! What are they paying you mindless Gits in, silver and gold Plated doubloons! Probably not too much and it shows! M$ can’t get many takers for Free, compared to windows 7 at full price! Oh the Silver and Gold was only paint and the Doubloons are melted lead fishing weights. Windows 10 will not be welcome, nor will any M$ OS past 7 for most. Hear that Cloud and Services NutDella!
I tried coming up with
I tried coming up with another word but you are simply an idiot. You can turn off ALL cloud services easily and limit the amount of data collection(NOT your files or ANYTHING related to PII) used my Microsoft to make Windows better. You are definitely a salty swashbuckler from the UK with a hatred of actually giving credit to a good OS when it is due just because they are 90% of the market share. Keep fighting the good fight and I will gladly enjoy windows 10 and all of its pro’s while disabling the few con’s.
Born in The USA, not UK, so
Born in The USA, not UK, so up your stinking monopoly A$$ you ScamMerican with your merchant princes! Much worse than old king George! Bust them Trusts and put M$ in the dust bin of history! Bust the Trusts Gaben, with that Steam OS! Vulkan Rules!
Up yours to all you ScamMericans and your Monopolies, they are going down, and the EU is going Linux and Open Source, as is the rest of the civilized world!
The real problem is that most
The real problem is that most home users don’t need an upgrade.
A 5 year old computer can:
– stream full screen video ala Youtube or Netflix
– play online casual games “aka Candy Crush”
– hop on Facebook/Twitter/Etc.
– run office applications fast
They likely have 90% of their space free on their hard drive, and rarely peak beyond 20% RAM and 10% processor utilization.
The bottleneck everyone has now is number of screens per family and the pipe to the Internet, not the OS the device runs.
^ This
I feel like alot folks
^ This
I feel like alot folks who are a) directly involved in the industry (ie manufacturing, retail, reporting) or b) mere industry entusiasts, suffer for the whole ‘cant see for the forest thru the trees’ syndrome.
The answer to the vry silly question (or premature question,rather. nice call on that one J Hellstrom) that this article poses can be found above. Point, end, peroid. NO ONE IS GOING TO FEEL LIKE THEY NEED PURCHASE A NEW CAR WHEN THE ONE THEY HAVE NOW IS more THAN CAPABLE. Sorry M$. U gotta figure out a way to charge folks for working on their EXISTING car.
And I know journalism and reporting cant be a difficult task. Especially when there really isnt anything to REPORT on. But please Inquirer. This article is silly at best. Others might throw the word ‘sensational’ around. I know i would. Especially if I were affialiated with M$ in any way. Just real silly inquirer. Make a story where this is none. And in fact, ur missing the real story. The story where a enormous company ceded control of an industry by failing to read the writing on the wall, and transitioning their engineering/manufacturing/ business models to better suit the shifting technological landscape. Blockbuster v Netflix anyone??
The ONLY thing the we are currently seeing take place, is the realization that we have, for a few years now, reached the computational power that satifies the needs of the vast majority of people. VAST MAJORITY. Now, instead of focusing our time and energy of improving upon that computational power, we are working on how to BEST deliver said power. Which is evidenced by the growth of mobile. Pretty simple if u ask me. Heck, there are even markets in this world, where the whole ‘personal computer’ era will completely miss them. By the time ‘computing’ reaches them in any significant numbers, mobile will be the best option.
People buy new cars when
People buy new cars when their exisiting one is still capable every day. Some lease, and some just want that ‘new car feeling’ again.
yea ur right. but NEED and
yea ur right. but NEED and WANT, are separate things. dont confuse the two. and when u factor that, for most, a computing device is much more of an appliance in their minds, than a car. then these instances of ‘want’ become much less likely. whats more, most folks upgrade their respective computing devices based more on performance, or aesthetics and popularity, rather than the software that happens to be driving them. and win10 is merely software. ie, they wont buy.
if microsoft wish to increase their profits, it would behoove them to ditch this model of trying to sell windows as a ‘product’ or ‘item’. but instead as a ‘service’. a simple change in perspective, would open up easier avenues for mircosoft to monetize, and simultaneously make the entire experience more much palatable for the end user.
clearly, windows as a ‘service’ is something that sends shiver down ones spine. the idea of ‘scheduled payments’ is much less appealing than the ‘pay once’, ‘one-and-done’ sort of transaction. but, ultimately, windows is a service. something that needs to be monitored and cultivated 24/7. and its obvious that microsoft are finding it difficult to continue to accomplish this on a daily basis, when their customers are paying them more on a decade basis. anyone who has ever payed the bills for a house or business will tell you: ‘when’ the money comes in, and ‘when’ it goes out, are two vry important details, that arent necessarily mutually exclusive.
microsoft are more the mechanics that work on ur car than they are the manufacturer that produced it. which in this case, would be asus, lenovo, msi, etc. its not a great analogy (this car v computer), but it kinda works 😛
plus, last time i checked, honda doesnt come in and park this years new accord in your garage…just on the off chance u may wanna splurge one day.
Thanks to Microsoft policies
Thanks to Microsoft policies on windows 10 I’ve switched my work laptop to OSX
HAHAHA have fun. Won’t miss
HAHAHA have fun. Won’t miss you. OSX is fine but for switching for the reason you did is just laughable. OSX makes its money from people throwing money at overpriced hardware and software that while functions well, is fundamentally in the same category of alcohol sales at a bar…way too much because of high license costs…
Emperor NutDella has no
Emperor NutDella has no clothes, it’s time to opt-out of M$ before their draconian EULA opts for your first born! Bust them trusts Teddy, bust them good!
For a site called ‘PC’
For a site called ‘PC’ Perspective, there sure seems to be an undercurrent of delight in bashing Microsoft any chance you get.
120 Million Windows 10 installations in three months. Yeah, absolutely terrible /s
I don’t think there’s any
I don’t think there’s any “delight” in it. However there are tons of valid reasons to be critical of Microsoft for things they’ve done with windows.
Ah yes, the old “reporting on
Ah yes, the old "reporting on facts that don't match my own preconceptions equals bashing" argument.
Can we pick a new one please, that one is getting boring.
People were falling over
People were falling over themselves to buy a copy of Windows 7. Microsoft is giving Windows 10 away….for free. If the numbers aren’t better (which I don’t think they are) then it’s not going to look very good.
Everybody bashes Monopolies,
Everybody bashes Monopolies, look at the Standard Oil Trust, and MA Bell, and Comcast! M$ is just getting what comes around for abusive Monopolies, and many Gamers will be going Steam OS. M$ is forcing its Monopolistic Hand, but folks are fighting back themselves because the politicians are bought and paid for! It’s so great to watch M$ get its comeuppances!
120 Million fools on a planet of 7.2 billion! Some of them not by their own choice can be subtracted from that 120 million when they revert back to their previous OS that they had no desire to update to 10 in the first place! That’s just owing to M$’s windows 10 update shenanigans! Oh those M$ drive-by OS downloads and installs to the SpyWare land of the metrics slurpers!
Since when did the PC become
Since when did the PC become a Microsoft only domain?
The thing I don’t get if why
The thing I don’t get if why people love to complain over each new version of Windows when the truth is each new version is always better than the last, yes you may not like X feature of the latest version, but overall the new OS have been better each time.
I am not saying Windows 10 is perfect or even revolutionary but it is better than xp or 7 or 8 or 8.1.
It’s not better than Vista?
It’s not better than Vista?
Not better than 7, or Steam
Not better than 7, or Steam OS! And lots of 7s, are going to Steam by 2020! 7 can hang around in a Linux VM for long after 2020 for any legacy crap, safely restricted from the net in that Linux based VM sandbox! Cloud first that, NutDella!
I waited a year for Windows
I waited a year for Windows 10 holding off on purchasing hardware for my new PC. After it was released I waited one day and bought the rest of my parts then quickly installed Linux.
Linux lost it’s chance with
Linux lost it’s chance with Vista. As long as people who think about going Linux come up with the question “There are so many, which one to choose?” and get 30 different suggestions, Linux will never go any higher than where it is now, which is where it was for about forever.
But, I swear I saw a large
But, I swear I saw a large amount of commenters stating they were going to Linux because "insert hated Windows 10 feature here" … I find it interesting actual market share doesn't reflect even a small percentage of those people making good on their diatribes.
I did but they never asked
I did but they never asked me. Oh wait, they steal their data from people not using ad and script blockers.. LOLOLOLOL those are garbage stats.
Shouldn’t this article be
Shouldn’t this article be more about how doomed the desktop/laptop market is in general if win 10 isn’t generating sales then what is chromebooks ;}. I think the reality is some see Microsoft announcing good numbers and they think hold on this is M$ they cant actually be doing good. On that note lets come back to this topic next year and see if there is any recovery to be seen in standard pc sales or will more and more consumers make do with a phone the size of their head.
I think this kind analysis is
I think this kind analysis is improper before the OS makes it through a fourth quarter sales push. I also know many people that say they are holding off on upgrading to 10 over concerns of compatibility and bugs, but say they will upgrade “in a few months.” That’s probably not a bad plan for most people and I anticipate the Windows 7 numbers to start falling more quickly over the next year.
Improper, no; premature is
Improper, no; premature is the word I think you are looking for.
I havent found ONE bug with
I havent found ONE bug with my W10 upgrade. Every driver works for everything I have.
Wrong !!! WW Mac is at 2% and
Wrong !!! WW Mac is at 2% and hasn’t budged !
Which source are you using
Which source are you using for that number that contradicts Net Market Share? Seemed high to me but they are good at what they do.
Net market share is not a be
Net market share is not a be all end all for actual usage! It’s just net usage numbers for those not running Ad/script blockers, and other privacy tools. Maybe a lot of Linux Users don’t want to be counted and could care less about M$’s ecosystem of forced-fed poop, and metrics gathering from Redmond or Net Market Share!
Mac OSX 8% in silicon
Mac OSX 8% in silicon valley.
Worldwide it is stuck @ 2.1%
Mac OSX is about 95% on the
Mac OSX is about 95% on the guests on TWiT.
I am not sure anyone is allowed on that show if they don’t have a Macbook.
so im assuming ryan and
so im assuming ryan and patrick are the main ones responsible for keeping that number below 100% haha XD
although this ‘whole’ iOS for a week ‘thingy’, or whatever it is that ryan is doing, has me a little concerned. “Ryan!! Please, those arent the droids ur looking for…the open-source (force) is strong in you, beware the false promises of the proprietary (darkside)!!” :p nice project btw
Here you go cry babies afraid
Here you go cry babies afraid of W10…http://bgr.com/2015/07/31/windows-10-upgrade-spying-how-to-opt-out/
Here you go. A newer story
Here you go. A newer story from the same website for the idiots that chug keep chugging MS’s D http://bgr.com/2015/08/13/windows-10-cortana-search-privacy-settings/
Here’s reports of Win10 installing without permission http://bgr.com/2015/10/30/windows-10-upgrade-automatic-download-pirates/
I hate it when the news
I hate it when the news contains only partial figures.
XP dropped from 17.18% to 11.68%. So that’s significant, and it does show that Windows users remained in the Windows ecosystem.
Pretty much implied with the
Pretty much implied with the lack of change in total Windows users, no?
I still post XP news but tend to do it seperately as it is EoL which makes continued use of it a story in and of itself.
Actually…i know alot of
Actually…i know alot of people who are waiting on upgrading to windows 10 (mostly engineers) because of stability, driver, and upgrade issues. Ive actually recommended that my gamer friends wait till at least December to upgrade because technically the windows 10 that launched in what? July? isnt actually the intended complete OS. As for the security stuff…how many of you have smartphones? How many of you use apps on your smart phone? You submit to auto updates that arent security related….you give your data to many many many companies every day….so why are you angry at MS for wanting to control their ecosystem and fragmentation? Sounds alot like irony to me…
yep..it broke my multi mon
yep..it broke my multi mon setup. i wasnt sure if was amds fault or microsofts…but i didnt care. uninstalled. immediately.
to be fair tho, i dont think the clientele frequenting these parts are the type of folks that spend all day tweeting, facebooking, instagraming, foursquaring, pininteresting, menstruating, etc etc anyways so…proly not the best analogy. whats ironic is that those types of people. the ones u describe. the ones who ‘select all’ on their auto updates. they probably dont even know windows is a thing. at best, they’ll associate it with the thing they type on at work. that is, when they’re not facebooking and/or menstruating of course.
Out of context question!
Out of context question! Could you ask intel and Microsoft to let you investigate speed shift (a la frame rate. Anandtech tested speedshift, sadly I think they didn’t test what is affected. Like Frame rate stability etc. Since you are the only crew I know who does this I was hoping you could make room . Also could you ask ms if speedshift means ms will let intel handle the default timer if yes could you ask intel if they plan to default their timer to itsc instead of lapic.
I am asking this because if it is the case you ll probably need to create a new test. Since this would affect imagery and i don’t know how to even bevin to test this (in sound its easy but in visual you might need a frame rate imagery quality and detail analyser or whatever it would be called.
Ty for the awesome job guys . I like your outside the box style guys