Pricing and Conclusion
These are all the final batches of products before AMD introduces the AM4 generation of parts. In preparation for those parts, AMD is also lowering prices over a wide range of products.
o AMD FX™ 8370 Wraith – $199.99 USD
o AMD FX™ 8370 – $189.99 USD
o AMD A10-7860K – $117.99 USD
o AMD A8-7670K – $105.99 USD
o AMD A8-7650K – $95.99 USD
o AMD Athlon™ X4 870K – $89.99 USD
o AMD Athlon™ X4 860K – $79.99 USD
o AMD Athlon™ X4 845 – $69.99 USD
While AMD has not announced the 7470K price, it is going to be inexpensive. The most interesting product here is the X4 845 that comes in at only $69.99. That will be an interesting product to test out and see it performs in regards to IPC and TDP.
AMD has certainly not thrown in the towel and admitted defeat. They are pushing their platforms forward with new offerings that add value to consumers’ dollars. Certainly we are all waiting for Zen to show, but, until then, AMD continues to reinforce their lineups with new offerings. They have a solid stable of CPUs and APUs for consumers at competitive price points. Their motherboard offerings in both AM3+ and FM2+ are fully featured and priced to sell.
AMD is doing their best to leverage the products they have currently to allow themselves the revenue to develop the products to be released in the future. While we may be impatient for the next big thing, AMD continues to move forward with competitive parts that add value to the marketplace. These new offerings may not be as exciting as parts we have seen in the past, but they are important for AMD’s continued survival. These parts offer consumers and OEMs options, as well as the price cuts to current offerings that make them more competitive against the latest products from Intel. AMD continues to keep punching, but we can only hope that they will land some solids later this year that will help to improve their position in the marketplace.
Their APUs are better then
Their APUs are better then they currently get credit for. Fingers crossed for 14-16nm, the next cpu will make everything better (and then we wake up).
Getting closer to Intel in
Getting closer to Intel in process tech is a pretty big deal. Getting away from Bulldozer (and those lessons learned) is just as important. AMD has a lot of work ahead of them not only in CPU architecture, but also more adequately integrating GPUs into the CPUs. Not that they are doing a bad job now, but there are certainly limitations to their current implementation.
Polaris or bust.
Polaris or bust.
Rumours of AMD’s death are
Rumours of AMD’s death are greatly exaggerated
That 3rd to last slide states
That 3rd to last slide states that Wraith will be available on the A10-7860K but the last slide only states it is on the FX 8370 with the 7860 getting the 95W thermal solution. Is there going to be a premium SKU for the 7860 offered that comes with the Wraith?
“Last year, we were
“Last year, we were introduced to the Carrizo APU, which featured the latest Excavator cores that provided high power efficiency as well as a denser design for smaller die sizes. These parts were limited to the mobile market and featured TDPs up to 35 watts.”
With most Carrizo laptop parts OEM restricted to 15 watts max, and no DDR4 support, so maybe with FM4/mobile variant there will be some mobile laptop parts able to run at 35 watts and have DDR4 memory, before Zen gets to market in late 2016 through 2017. Polaris will be great in laptops, with its more energy efficient design, so those future ZEN laptop based APUs can be paired with a discrete mobile Polaris GPU for dual APU and discrete GPU laptop gaming. The really big potential story is maybe a Zen Based APU on an interposer for laptops, with a much more beefy GPU on the interposer along with the Zen cores and HBM! Let’s hope the laptop OEMs don’t continue to gimp the laptop SKUs that come with AMD’s APUs!
Give me Excavator on AM3+..
Give me Excavator on AM3+.. or release AM4 now and give me Excavator untill Zen is out.. come on..
But wishful thinking that Zen will bring all some of us are hoping for. The needed competition 🙂
Still, Excavator would give a needed boost to AM3+ platform, the last farewell and a needed upgrade. And seeing as this would be 2 generations a head, we would be talking around 10-13% IPC boost. Not much, but for AMD fans it would be nice to have. In 8 core variant 🙂
I think FM2+ is a more ideal
I think FM2+ is a more ideal platform than AM3+. FM2+ has PCI-E 3.0, while AM3+ is limited to 2.0. The A88X chipset on the FM2+ platform is newer and better featured than the latest AM3+ chipset (990FX).
Both platforms are pretty much dead this year, but until they’re in the ground, FM2+ is still kicking, and ought to be a better platform for Excavator.
The disappointing part is that there IS an Excavator part for FM2+ now (or, it’s coming) – the Athlon X4 845 – and it’s a mobile part limited to x8 PCI-E 3.0 lanes. *facepalm* C’mon AMD. Bring us an Athlon X4 885, four Excavator cores and all x16 PCI-E lanes enabled.
That new AMD stock cooler is
That new AMD stock cooler is very aesthetically pleasing – meanwhile, Intel is cutting stock coolers from their newer CPUs and not even adjusting the price to compensate for it…
AMD APUs are very unappreciated, I understand that they’re old (relatively) but you seriously can’t beat the price for what they offer. (I’m talking general desktop use and maybe some productivity – obviously not gaming or major productivity programs)
Hopefully Zen will allow AMD to keep a few paces behind Intel, and I have a feeling that Polaris is going to be a big win for AMD in 2016.
I’m hoping their high-end HBM2 GPU is one of the first to be released as I’m looking for something beefy to game with 4K
^ yep for everyday computing,
^ yep for everyday computing, the APUs are were its at.
and whats with the 845? the 860k is faster so why are they coming out with a “new” slower quad core?
Gotta unload those cores that
Gotta unload those cores that are not fully functional for the mobile market?
That’s not correct. The 860K
That’s not correct. The 860K clocks at 4.0 GHz with turbo, but it’s Steamroller. Excavator has a ~15% IPC boost according to AMD, so the 845 should be a tad faster – while running at a 65W TDP instead of 95W TDP.
meh, tad faster.. im not
meh, tad faster.. im not really seeing any numbers that back that up.
And the 860k is unlocked and overclocks well.
30watts, thats peanuts in a desktop. I see nothing that make me choose that chip over the 860k
I could have read the article
I could have read the article wrong, but I think the new 845 only has 2MB L2 (or is it L3) cache vs 4MB in the 860k. Does that matter?
more cache is always better.
more cache is always better.
Hmmm…
I understand the idea
Hmmm…
I understand the idea behind the 7860K, lower power, slightly better gaming performance, etc, but increasing iGPU Core clock by 5% won’t achieve much on a 512 shader part.
I think they’re just optimizing whatever they can before they launch AM4. However, seeing how Intel improves their HD graphics performance each generation with power efficiency superiority, I don’t feel optimistic about AMDs next gen products.
Intel iGP only looks good
Intel iGP only looks good because it is on 14 nm. Being a process generation ahead (or 2 generations plus FinFet) is a big advantage in the GPU space. That advantage will be going away this year. When AMD and Nvidia get their 14 nm parts out, Intel’s IGP not look so good. I also have not seen any Intel tech that will really compete with an APU on a silicon interposer, but everything is a moving target in the tech industry, so Intel will be spending a lot of money on trying to make a better graphics solution.
That’s not true. Intel’s iGPU
That’s not true. Intel’s iGPU architecture is making tremendous strides, and the SP count hasn’t increased since Haswell. The GT2 parts we’re seeing doing very well against AMD’s 384 and 512-SP parts only have 192 SPs (24 EUs * 8 SIMD units each).
You haven’t? You may want to read up on the fully custom Skylake E5/E7 Xeons, because they are bringing iGPU and HBM/HMC onto their highest-end chips.
Intel will always be a
Intel will always be a process generation or two ahead of everyone else. If you look at the performance improvement of Intel iGPUs vs AMDs over the years, the Curve is a lot steeper on Intels side. They improve much more each generation than AMD, and they surpassed them a while back.
has intel ever done anything
has intel ever done anything decent in the graphic dept.
say it loud enough
“intel integrated graphics” someone will UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
since forever.
To be fair, they are
To be fair, they are competitive with AMD now. They’ve really spent three straight CPU refresh cycles upgrading their GPU tech, and it shows.
The “competitive” intel
The “competitive” intel graphics are in intel processors that cost 3x as much as AMD ones do.
exactly, so when they win,
exactly, so when they win, they still lose.
intel pricing can go take a leap.
They work well for what they
They work well for what they are designed for. Low power and rendering 2D.
“Can It Run Desktop” is what the vast majority of users ask of their PCs.
I just got the AMD A10-7870k
I just got the AMD A10-7870k Godavari and on the ASUS Crossblade Ranger it seem to run well sofar. Only had it a few days now and still trying to get the overclock setting right, ran RealBench V2.43 and best score sofar is 70062. http://rog.asus.com/realbench/show_comment.php?id=11666
With just the built-in GPU R7 (Spectre) and it still score good.