The Acer Predator Z35 is a big display, 35" of A-MVA panel with a resolution of 2560×1080, an 11ms response rate, 4ms GTG, the ability to display 72% of standard colour gamut and a W-LED backlight. With an MSRP of $1050 it will not come cheap and Hardware Canucks are on the job to determine if it is worth the investment. The virtual On Screen Display is similar to the Predator X34, a menu button brings up shortcuts to the various controls which you can then navigate to change your desired settings. When they tested performance it was obvious that they have stretched the DP 1.2 connection to the maximum, which is why that particular resolution was chosen and unfortunately the 0.32mm dot pitch is painfully obvious. Hardware Canucks did like this monitor but overall felt that a higher resolution with a lower refresh rate of 100-144Hz is a better choice for gamers.
"Acer's Z35 is the father of all gaming monitors; it has a ridiculous 200Hz refresh rate, G-SYNC compatibility and A-MVA panel and a respectable 2560×1080 resolution. "
Here are some more Display articles from around the web:
- Acer Predator XB271HK 4K G-SYNC Monitor Review @ Hardware Canucks
- Asus ProArt PA329Q 32 inch Colour Accurate 4K IPS @ Kitguru
- AOC C3583FQ 35-inch 160hz curved ultra-wide @ Kitguru
Lots of ghosting above 144hz.
Lots of ghosting above 144hz. I tried running 200hz but cant get over the amount of ghosting. Especially with Black, red and blue colors. http://i.imgur.com/XEls9C4.jpg
That means that the response
That means that the response time is too low to run at 200 Hz. Most of these high refresh displays are pushing the overdrive pretty hard even to get to existing refresh rates. Advertising a 200 Hz refresh rate turns it into a fake spec with little meaning. This should be strongly discouraged. It just tells you how fast the electronics can go. The problem is, displays are already using overdrive with varying levels of ghosting even at 144 Hz. It sounds like no one would want to run at 200 Hz since it would, I assume, turn into a blurry mess. At 144 Hz, they can get the overdrive calibrated to the point of near zero ghosting though. This is almost certainly impossible at 200 Hz with an MVA panel. It isn’t quite as meaningless as something like “dynamic contrast ratio”, since that really tells you nothing.
I wonder if Nvidia will push display makers to not do this with their g-sync displays. I thought Nvidia was taking an active role in g-sync displays to make sure users have a good experience. Do they have a say in how the overdrive is calibrated and how high it is clocked to be able to use the g-sync branding? I would hope that they would not allow the display maker to advertise g-sync in conjunction with this bogus 200 Hz rating.
It isn’t a very good monitor,
It isn't a very good monitor, which hopefully you figured out from the hints in my post and the review, though it is acceptable @ 144Hz if you can stand the design of it and the dot pitch.
I am betting the real reason for the troubles is DP 1.2, it really doesn't have the bandwidth to cope with that, maybe DP 1.3/1.4 will actually make this a reasonable product. We will see soon hopefully.
Hey Jeremy,
What exactly
Hey Jeremy,
What exactly could this lack of bandwidth be affecting?
It’s a digital signal, so if there is a problem due to DP this implies data corruption. If so, WHERE is the data being corrupted specifically and why would this just show as ghost/blur issues?
It seems to me it’s mainly a panel issue due to a combination of response time and overdrive not working at 200Hz properly.
If I’m wrong perhaps you could be more specific?
(big fan of the Podcast BTW)
Part of the reason that they
Part of the reason that they went 1080p is because a 200Hz signal fills the theoretical 17.28 Gbit/s available bandwidth from what i understand. Not being as fully versed in monitors as I should be I don't know for sure but missed pixel change commands would seem to me to be able to cause ghosting, jerky ghosting even.
I;m sure if I am totally off base someone will pop in to tell me what an idiot I am.
Cheers!
Well, it’s not my area of
Well, it’s not my area of expertise either.
I guess it really doesn’t matter WHY it looks bad at this refresh rate only that it does.
I really wish this Monitor
I really wish this Monitor had as good of picture as the ROG Swift PG278Q. Too bad it’s far far from it.
at 35 inch yikes that pixel
at 35 inch yikes that pixel density
And I 100% lost all
And I 100% lost all interested after “2560×1080”
Hideous gamer look = check
Hideous gamer look = check
The display can overclock to
The display can overclock to 200 Hz, but it can’t reach that without ghosting according to the TFT Central review. It’s basically a 120 Hz VA panel.
Bleh, instead of these types
Bleh, instead of these types of monitors can we start getting high refresh rate 16:9 4K monitors instead please?
4k120hz monitors could happen
4k120hz monitors could happen as early as Q4 of this year:
https://pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Radeon-Technologies-Group-Update-2016-FreeSync-and-HDR
$1050 is way too expensive
$1050 is way too expensive for a 1080p monitor, regardless if it’s 200Hz and widescreen.
I hope Nvidia steps in and
I hope Nvidia steps in and discourages such borderline false advertising with their g-sync brand name. People have come to expect very good overdrive calibration from g-sync displays, and this display obviously will not deliver that.
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I had all but given up my
I had all but given up my battle with acer but it looks like we met in the middle.
OK, we got your point, and we ARE doing it!
ANNOUNCEMENT! Our monitor team has considered your request and agrees with you! Future monitors will include the option to turn off the splash screen. Here is how the settings will work….
“Quick Start Mode” :
Is set “On” to speed up the time of the splash display.
On:
Acer Logo shows for 1 sec.
Does not display the Energy Star logo.
Off: (Default)
Normal display. (with both Acer logo and Energy Star logo splash)
Thank you for your suggestion, and to all who commented on the issue as well! Good Thinking, Folks!