Testing Setup and Professional Testing
Our testing setup and hardware platform remain unchanged from our most recent graphics articles. It includes a Haswell-E processor, X99 motherboard and more.
PC Perspective GPU Testbed | |
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Processor | Intel Core i7-5960X Haswell-E |
Motherboard | ASUS Rampage V Extreme X99 |
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB DDR4-3200 |
Storage | OCZ Agility 4 256GB (OS) Adata SP610 500GB (games) |
Power Supply | Corsair AX1500i 1500 watt |
OS | Windows 10 x64 |
Drivers | AMD: Crimson 16.4.2 NVIDIA: 364.96 |
For this review we are introducing some of our new game suite as well. Gone are the days of Skyrim, Metro: Last Light and GRID 2. Instead, you’ll see Grand Theft Auto V, Rise of the Tomb Raider, The Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 running at both 2560×1440 and 4K (3840×2160) with very high image quality settings.
For our hardware comparisons, the Radeon Pro Duo will be going up a combination of relevant Radeon hardware a set of 980 Ti cards in SLI.
- AMD Radeon Pro Duo – $1499
- AMD Radeon R9 Nano Crossfire – $990
- AMD Radeon R9 Fury X – $629
- AMD Radeon R9 295X2 – EOL
- NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti SLI – $1220
The pair of R9 Nano cards in CrossFire is probably the most relevant comparison in terms of specifications – I expect them to perfectly match the results from the Radeon Pro Duo. The Fury X represents the next-fastest graphics cards being sold from AMD while the R9 295X2 is included to compare to the last, fastest ever card from AMD, released in mid-2014. The best comparison for NVIDIA will be a pair of GTX 980 Ti cards running in SLI totaling $1200+.
LuxMark v3.1 Benchmark
Though AMD did not provide the Radeon Pro Duo for this review, I approached them about the story and they only asked that we gave some indications of a professional use-case for the card. To that end, we are including results from LuxMark, an OpenCL ray tracing benchmark, as well as 3DS MAX with an OpenCL-based path tracing rendering plugin called FireRender.
These results are from the “hotel” benchmark, which is the most complex scenario available in LuxMark, and they represent the number of samples computed per second. The Radeon Pro Duo and the Nano cards in CrossFire are within 3% of each other, while the Fury X falls 89% back. The GeForce GTX 980 Ti cards in SLI have the advantage with a score of 7464, a full 12% faster than the Radeon Pro Duo.
3DS MAX Benchmark
Our testing with 3DS MAX uses a sample scene that AMD provided us for our review. Using the trial version of the application, along with the FireRender plug-in downloaded from GitHub, we wanted to see this tool in action. As they describe it, “AMD FireRender for Autodesk 3ds Max is a physically accurate raytracing plugin” and a “full-fledged unbiased path tracing renderer that also includes a native, physically-based material system.” It is built in OpenCL and is completely open, source and all. It runs on all GPU hardware.
Our testing was pretty simple:
- Open a saved project file ready for final render
- Adjust FireRender settings under Rendering -> Render Setup
- Set rendering hardware to GPU only, and the number of GPUs to 2 (or 1 depending on config)
- Start rendering process
- Use the final frame render time as result
The Radeon Pro Duo shows significant scaling, going from a single GPU to two, improving the render time by almost 60% and, considering that is done with one dual-slot graphics card, that's pretty impressive. It's important to note that, before the release of FireRender, there was not a plug-in for 3ds Max that enabled ray tracing rendering on AMD Radeon or FirePro hardware; instead NVIDIA's plug-ins all use CUDA and are, thus, GeForce/Quadro restricted.
The openness of FireRender also means that the GTX 980 Ti can run it and as you would expect, based on the direct GPU to GPU comparison, it does well. In both single GPU and dual-GPU configurations the GeForce configuration is faster than the Radeon Pro Duo. Keep in mind though, of course, that a developer would need the added space and power to install a second GTX 980 Ti or Titan X.
I’d like to see more on
I’d like to see more on the’create’ side eg render benchmark comparison.
At this stage, I think 2 x r9 nanos is a better proposition. In Australia, you can find new Nanos for $800aud each. The Pro Duo is advertised at $2200aud.
Gaming wise, a Nano is about the same as a GTX970. 970 SLI is about the same as a 980Ti.
Rendering wise, a Nano is better than a 980Ti.
But who knows with the next generations from nVidia and Radeon?
I agree some render
I agree some render benchmarks would be good considering the target market for this GPU. However I’ve gotta pick you up on one thing you said; the Nano is about the same as a GTX 980, it’s much faster than a 970, check any review! On the 970 sli versus 980ti, I think the vast majority of people would always recommend a single powerful card over 2 less powerful ones any day as you don’t run the risk of a bad sli profile.
On topic, why did they wait to release this? If it is aimed at developers well they’ve been developing DX12/VR stuff for a few months now, ideally they needed the card when they started that process, not now things are slowly releasing! Clearly a true dual card setup is preferable to this, unless you absolutely need the pro drivers.
This would be grate in my
This would be grate in my mini itx rendering machine. Im just allergic to atx and micro atx builds.
Check out AdoredTv’s latest
Check out AdoredTv’s latest video on youtube. He talks about how traditional sites approach benchmarking and the blunders involved.
The pro duo is AMD’s Nano in
The pro duo is AMD’s Nano in crossfire on one pcb. The testing revealed they performed identically. Those people complaining are not real gamers. Who doesn’t play GTA 5? lol
It would have been nice to see the Division benched though.
You AMD guys are some
You AMD guys are some seriously retarded individuals; it’s not even funny. This card sucks. AMD blows. Crossfire is shit. And you are gay.
Well to be honest, I too
Well to be honest, I too would have liked the DX12 games tested too. Just to see how they did perform on the Pro Duo against the 980Ti SLI setup. Even if it was just to even up the “Gameworks” titles, at least then, a lot of people wouldn’t have screamed at the review. Balance is what was needed in the review, even if it made no difference to the outcome.
Lets face it, I wouldnt buy this card for this kind of money and also because the newer cards are due soon, as well as the CF issues in a lot of newer games too. So three good reasons for this card not suiting my purposes.
All of this however, does not excuse the nasty comments aimed at PC Per in particular Ryan Shrout. Personal insults are the last resort of the desperate fanboy regardless of which team they ‘Support’. Be nice and engage in reasoned debate over this review to get your point across, not go on an all out rant. Ranting does not encourage anyone to even consider what you say, let alone do anything about it.
They are just Graphics cards FFS!! Life is more important than that.
And before you call me an Nvidia Fanboy….I run a Sapphire Fury Tri-X and it has given me lots of happy gaming hours with my XL2730Z Freesync Monitor.
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Done with you. I just
Done with you. I just listened to the whole podcast and at every level where AMD were talked about (even if they had the advantage) you made them look bad. You are bias. There’s no getting around that.
I work at a place where we
I work at a place where we sell these incredible cards. I picked one up as I was getting problems with my dual GTX980TIs in Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Siege.
Let me tell you this guys… ALL MY GAMES run BUTTER smooth on my 1440P monitor.. I mean like BUTTER with all the graphic details set on high.
I don’t care what these reviewers say, maybe NVIDIA pays them not to test DX12 games, no clue…. BOTTOM LINE IS, this is A DREAM GPU that makes gaming on 1440p and 4k a reality on my X99 Deluxe mobo… and if you guys can afford it, get it! Also Tom Clancy’s The Division in DX12 IS LIKE GLASS! My dual 980TI setup was shuttering as if it was loading textures etc.. I put these GTX on ebay, let someone else deal with this crap….
GET AMD PRO DUO… you won’t regret it! It’s future prof in DX12 and VR!
Well, I hope the bung you
Well, I hope the bung you took from nVidia bought you a new porsche. If not, you have just trashed your reputation for nothing, Ryan. That selection of titles is very poor.
I think I’ll stick to 2 x
I think I’ll stick to 2 x $499 Nanos.
I really love it, when there
I really love it, when there are only Nvidia branded titles in a review. Only Nvidia branded games. Beautiful. Could have at least try to mix it up with one independent game…