Power Consumption, Perf per Dollar, Closing Thoughts
Power Consumption Testing
Idle power on the 6950X is slightly higher, but a few watts may be the result of a motherboard change from Haswell-E to Broadwell-E. The load numbers are really what we're after anyway, and here the 14nm process technology is proving to be extremely valuable. When running all 10-cores in CineBench, the 6950X system pulls 7 watts LESS than the 8-core 5960X based system! There is maybe an even more impressive result from the comparison to the 6700K, which actually is only pulling 20 watts less power under a full load. Consider the performance deltas we saw in multi-threaded applications on the previous pages and that is an impressive power efficiency result for Intel!
Performance per Dollar
One thing we wanted to take into consideration with this review is the idea of performance per dollar. To get some interesting data I selected three benchmarks (7zip, Cinebench 11 and x264 v5.0) and included current pricing from Newegg.com (or Amazon if out of stock on Newegg).
As impressive as the Core i7-6950X was in terms of raw performance and compute power, it is as equally unimpressive in terms of value for your dollar. Honestly, this was expected, and has always been the case for Intel's Extreme Edition processors. That was the case at the $1000 price point, but it is exacerbated even more dramatically with a $1700+ price tag on the new 6950X.
Side note: look at the performance per dollar of the AMD FX-8350!
Pricing and Availability
There isn’t much more to add here on the discussion of price. The Core i7-6950X is over $1700 and you should really only be considering that part if you are an extreme multi-tasker or professional developer that can really utilize all 10-cores and utilize them often. The new $1000 part will be the Core i7-6900K, sharing an 8-core design with the Core i7-5960X of Haswell-E. The two 6-core options will be in the $430-650 range. If you need more than four cores to feel comfortable with your particular workload then I would recommend those options; PC gamers that aren’t also doing encoding, streaming, and capturing simultaneously need not apply for this 10-core beast!
Complicating the price story from Intel as well is the fact that the Xeon E5-2640 v4 processor exists. This is a 10-core / 20-thread processor with 25MB of cache that uses the same LGA2011-v3 socket. It does run at a lower base clock rate of 2.4 GHz, but it has the same Turbo Boost clock rate of 3.4 GHz compared to the Core i7-6950X. Heck, it even has a lower TDP at just 90 watts! You can find this processor selling for just $939; it's a grey market part, but you would save nearly $800 if you are willing to drop some of the frequency of the Core i7-6950X.
The Broadwell-E processors should be in the channel in June and the newly updated X99 motherboards are already widely available.
Closing Thoughts
First, let’s talk about the positive side of the Core i7-6950X. It is clearly, and without a shred of doubt, the fastest consumer processor on the market. With the inclusion of Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0, Intel was able to improve single-threaded performance enough to keep it within striking distance of the Core i7-6700K using Skylake, all while jamming in 10-cores for maximum performance on multi-threaded workloads. If you do video rendering, encoding or 3D work, the processing capability of this CPU will be a godsend. It’s also great that it still uses the X99 chipset, and most motherboards that exist will support the new Broadwell-E processors with only a firmware update.
Now, to the negative: PRICE! Intel had no solid answer as to why the company decided to charge as much for the 10-cores of the 6950X as they are, even when it was pointed out that the move from 6-core to 8-cores did not result in any kind of similar price hike. For a consumer processor, even a pro-sumer / power user, $1000 seems like a reasonable cap for prices; it was already more than we recommended for 95% of users so it’s hard to see this $1700 price point making it into anything other than our Dream system on the Leaderboard! Obviously every company is allowed to charge whatever they want for their products, I just don’t think the user base is prepared to pay it – even with the incredible performance it provides.
I tell you what Intel – you drop the price of the Core i7-6950X to $1000 and I’ll give it a recommendation for ultra-enthusiasts. Deal?
Price cut when they realize
Price cut when they realize they gave out more review samples than people actually bought?
If the 10 core was only
If the 10 core was only $1200-1300, it might be a viable option, but not over $1700
Clearly Intel don’t aim the
Clearly Intel don’t aim the average Joe market…
edit: doesn’t
edit: doesn’t
Its worth $1000 just like
Its worth $1000 just like every other extreme CPU
At $1700, isn’t it cheaper to
At $1700, isn’t it cheaper to buy a dual socket board with two 6 core parts?
I miss the CPU wars of a decade ago. I hope zen is something worth replacing my 4770k with.
If it isn’t worth it to
If it isn’t worth it to upgrade your 4770k to SkyLake, then it probably isn’t going to be worth it to upgrade to Zen either. I was still using a core 2 duo laptop up until recently, and it did everything I wanted it to fine. Most general use applications just do not need that much processing power.
So with overclocking,
So with overclocking, Broadwell-E on average basically offers around the same per core performance, and no better?
I guess the “sweet spot” is probably still a the 6 core model. Something we’ve had around for several generations now. If you can call a $617 CPU a sweet spot.
As a mere mortal and gamer,
As a mere mortal and gamer, I’m much more interested in how the Broadwell-E 6850k and 6800k compare to the Skylake 6700k than I am about the 10 core/20 thread behemoth.
I’m hoping to see PCPer do some gaming benchmarks that compare these platforms in the near future, especially for slightly older titles that aren’t necessarily written with much multi-threading in mind.
They only had the 1 sample, I
They only had the 1 sample, I am sure more reviews are to come. I love how TTL was pushing the 6850k over 6800k,not worth it IMO considering its only more pcie lanes.
They only had the 1 sample, I
They only had the 1 sample, I am sure more reviews are to come. I love how TTL was pushing the 6850k over 6800k,not worth it IMO considering its only more pcie lanes.
I remember seeing people talk
I remember seeing people talk about the 1499 MSRP rumor for the 10c/20t CPU and saying, “It’s not going to be that high. It’s going to be $999 just like the previous gen.”
Lo’ and behold, it’s more than anyone could have anticipated.
Nothing short of a scam, please Zen don’t be Bulldozer2.0
Do you know the Murphy’s
Do you know the Murphy’s law?
By some vaseline while you can afford it. :o)
edit: buy
edit: buy
Anyone see benchmarks in
Anyone see benchmarks in modern games with a 1080?
I am considering upgrading from a 970 -> 1070/1080. However I am still on an i7 3770k @ 4.1. Wondering if that and the 1600mhz ram is limiting me.
So skylake would be easy upgrade – or the 6 core would not be that muchi more here with the 28lanes of PCIe..
DO you need an older CPU to
DO you need an older CPU to update the bios or can you update the bios with this new CPU installed?
Contact you motherboard
Contact you motherboard manufacturer.
Holding pattern for Zen…
Holding pattern for Zen… The lack of competition in this market is really showing.. Or what we’re seeing is the real devaluation of the USD.. You guys are printing money like nVidia and Intel make new chips..
really make you think doesn’t it…
Even with EUR or GBP it won’t
Even with EUR or GBP it won’t be significantly cheaper…
$1700? You could get a
$1700? You could get a *cough*https://pcper.com/hwlb*cough* dream gaming PC for that, with cash left over for some Steam credit. I guess this part is not intended for me.
Alright, maybe only ‘high
Alright, maybe only ‘high end’, but still – better than my trusty old Thuban rig..
This illustrates why Intel
This illustrates why Intel doesn’t want to be in the GPU market. The 1080 is actually a big chip for 16 nm, but Nvidia has to sell the GPU, plus 8 GB of new, super high speed memory on a PCB with an expensive cooler for $700. Intel gets $1700 just for a bare CPU. I would of guess that the die size for this CPU is similar to the 1080 GPU. The problem with not wanting to be in the GPU market is that the consumer market is quickly merging with the GPU market. Mobile will probably be going mostly APUs. There is quite a bit of power savings to have everything on one die. I don’t know how acceptable APUs will be in the desktop market, but an HBM based APU could be a very powerful device. Intel does not have a competitive GPU at all. The stuff with on-package didn’t fair too bad, but that was comparing an Intel 14 nm device with an AMD 28 nm device. Intel GPUs will not be able to compete with AMD or Nvidia 14 or 16 nm devices. Intel may have a lot of competition in the enterprise market also. Power processors and Nvidia GPU compute are going to be very competitive for HPC. There is also possible AMD HPC APUs and possibly ARM server processors. The new ARM core is only about 0.65 mm2 die area on 10 nm. They could put a large number of cores like that on a die with a huge L3 cache and have a very high throughput server device.
I have $156,000 in the
I have $156,000 in the business bank account ready to purchase 100 of the through the channel. We’ll be selling them for $1750+ and using them in my company’s Pro Workstation 3 Desktops. They will pair well with the $4000 Quadro’s that we will using.
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Here’s your reply
Here’s your reply
Anyone else feel like Intel
Anyone else feel like Intel is milking this CPU generation as much as possible until AMD releases Zen?
I think the pricing should have been;
10 Core = $1000
8 Core = $750
6 Core = $450
6 Core = $250
I hope that the prices change when Zen is released…
I’ll wait for zen and go for
I’ll wait for zen and go for it, whatever it is. Boycott whoever play the monopolistic game proudly as Intel is clearly doing.
well, greed has no
well, greed has no limits.
and lack of actual competition as well 🙂
i agree with above, until AMD has some competing products …
intel can drag their feet, milk the cows, and act basically
like comcast in that onion video spoof ….
“we don’t give a f….”, what are you gonna do ? …etc. etc. etc.
sorry Intel, love your products butz …something doesnt add up
I can get three i7-6700k and still be under $1000.
so don’t bullshit that its a cost ble ble ble …3 freaking skylakes ….still cheaper than one 10-core CPU …
at least CEO, COO, CFxxxO will get the bonuses 🙂
For the price of one private
For the price of one private jet you can get many compact cars without being able to reach half of the sound speed…
What are you trying to demonstrate?
Except the right analogy is
Except the right analogy is between a Ferrari and whatever muscle or sports car is in the same price ratio, your private jet example is stupid like you.
Does it change anything (the
Does it change anything (the best performance for the worst price) in the logic? No.
Insulting people doesn’t make you right either.
If Intel could lower the
If Intel could lower the price of the I7 6950X from 1700 to 1000 then the entire line is approx 47% overpriced……
Just saying……………..