We're expecting a major announcement tomorrow… at some point. NVIDIA create a teaser website, called “Order of 10,” that is counting down to a 1PM EDT. On the same day, at 9PM EDT, they will have a live stream on their Twitch channel. This wasn't planned as long-term as their Game24 event, which turned out to be a GTX 970 and GTX 980 launch party, but it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up being a similar format. I don't know for sure whether one or both events will be about the new mainstream Pascal, but it would be surprising if Friday ends (for North America) without a GPU launch of some sort.
VideoCardz got a hold of 3DMark Fire Strike Extreme benchmarks, though. It is registered as an 8GB card with a GPU clock of 1860 MHz. While synthetic benchmarks, let alone a single benchmark of anything, isn't necessarily representative of overall performance, it scores slightly higher than a reasonably overclocked GTX 980 Ti (and way above a stock one). Specifically, this card yields a graphics score of 10102 on Fire Strike Extreme 1.1, while the 980 Ti achieved 7781 for us without an overclock.
We expected a substantial bump in clock rate, especially after GP100 was announced at GTC. This “full” Pascal chip was listed at a 1328 MHz clock, with a 1480 MHz boost. Enterprise GPUs are often underclocked compared to consumer parts, stock to stock. As stated a few times, overclocking could be a huge gap, too. The GTX 980 Ti was able to go from 1190 MHz to 1465 MHz. On the other hand, consumer Pascal's recorded 1860 MHz could itself be an overclock. We won't know until NVIDIA makes an official release. If not, maybe we could see these new parts break 2 GHz in general use?
This looks great. Let’s hope
This looks great. Let’s hope this is the stock 1080 performance and it can be scaled for more performance in the Ti line (or further overclocked).
Ya. GTX 1080 better use
Ya. GTX 1080 better use GDDR5X Video Memory for enthusiast gamers.
Not enough for people
Not enough for people who paid $650 to upgrade to I think personally, pretty underwhelming.
I know some people would be happy with some low number like 15% or 20% performance over the previous flagship because we’ve been stuck on 28nm for five years now, but on a new node I expected much more.
And seeing as AMD is only aiming at the low-mid end market, another reason not to upgrade.
Disappointing to say the least, I guess I won’t be upgrading to 2017.
The difference this time
The difference this time around is the power usage.
If this site is right, the 1080 at tdp 175w will have a small performance advantage of the 980ti at tdp 250w.
What is also interesting, and again if it is true, the 1080ti will be almost twice as powerful while rated at 225w.
I’ll agree, if you already have a 980ti, the 1080 is not a good upgrade, should wait for 1080ti. The next question is, just how much are they going to bump up the price for 1080ti/pascaltitanx over current gen?
Man. I feel the same way. I
Man. I feel the same way. I need the Ti or Titan.
I don’t view the 1080 as an
I don’t view the 1080 as an upgrade path for the 980ti.
I’m expecting the 10xx series to be like the 9xx series, where the 980 was really only a little better than the 780ti and not really worth upgrading unless you really wanted to lower TDP.
So I am expecting a similar situation with the 1080 vs the 980ti.
Personally, I have a 970 and I already know I’m waiting for the 1080ti next year.
AMD only targets the low-mid
AMD only targets the low-mid end market for their CPU line so I expect Polaris to be competing well with Pascal, which is good for everyone. Looking forward to seeing their offerings in the coming weeks.
What he is referring to are
What he is referring to are rumors that AMD is targeting low to mid mainstream market out of the gate with their gpus this time.
Fair enough. I’m planning on
Fair enough. I’m planning on upgrading this fall so I’m willing to wait until the entire product line is out.
I’ll wait for proper
I’ll wait for proper benchmarking before I get too excited or worried. The driver they used didn’t even fully recognize the card.
That said, if I owned a GTX 9×0 I wouldn’t be too excited by these results. Since I have a GTX 560Ti though, I’ve got my wallet open!
Heh. Yeah. I have a GTX 670,
Heh. Yeah. I have a GTX 670, and it could use an upgrade, too.
Overpriced Gx104 (Kepler=Pascal)…
Wow, 1800+ Mhz! I was
Wow, 1800+ Mhz! I was thinking we’d see 1500 or so tops! I wonder if that is pushed to the limit, or near actual shipping frequencies.
Not as disappointing as the
Not as disappointing as the supposed AMD Polaris benchmarks that leaked, which showed virtually no performance gains over the last generation cards they are replacing, but still disappointing.
I’m looking to replace my 970 only because I want to go from 1080p to 1440, and the 970 can struggle at that resolution in some games (with the settings high, anyway). I won’t necessarily buy the new card right away, but I WILL buy the monitor soon and it would be nice to know whether I should shell out for G-Sync or not.
Right now… it LOOKS like AMD’s next gen will make no performance gains but come in at a lower power and price. Nvidia’s new chips will be more expensive, but also a little faster (at least in DX11) and also use less power than the current gen. AMD’s lower price MAY be enough for me to replace my 970 with a R9 490x rather than a 1080 (or whatever they’re going to call it) *IF* the real world DX12 performance really is a good deal better.
Guess it’s a matter of holding out for real world (and DX12) benchmarks, which will probably start pouring in after the announcement tomorrow (assuming review sites have the cards and are just waiting for NDAs to lift).
But I want it all NOW!!!
It seems that AMD is
It seems that AMD is targeting a lower performance tier and price point with Polaris than what NV is targeting with the 1070 and 1080.
AND wants/needs to get its
AND wants/needs to get its GPUs, and CPUs/APUs, in more OEM laptop SKUs where the unit sales are larger than for PCs alone. The mainstream cost savings/pricing sort of sales that have the numbers to support more revenues at lower profit margins than the flagship market with its lower numbers of overall sales. AMD does not yet have a large presence in the HPC GPU accelerator market, but that will change once AMD’s HPC APUs on an interposer SKUs get into that market paired with both ZEN(x86 ISA based cores) and Custom K12(ARMv8A ISA based cores). So it’s AMD’s x86 and ARM based APUs on an interposer paired with probably Vega GPU accelerators.
AMD really needs to pick up some HPC/Workstation market share to support the R&D funding for that market, and that R&D will work its way down into the consumer gaming SKUs! So AMD is going for the gaming console market, and the commercial display kiosk embedded market, and other embedded markets. AMD needs to get the revenues up in the the hopes that Zen and Polaris/Vega will get back some of that traditional x86 server business, and mainstream laptop/PC business, while also getting a custom ARM(K12) AMD made micro-architecture that is engineered to run the ARMv8A ISA, for the ARM server/other low power markets. AMD is already competitive in the consumer GPU gaming market, so AMD’s ACE unit asynchronous compute advantage for VR gaming will make for more wins there also.
Just upgraded from a 770 to a
Just upgraded from a 770 to a (used) 970.
If these are the gains … see you next year, Pascal.
I’m still waiting for
I’m still waiting for non-reference high end MSI Pascal GPU to replace over GTX 680. And, I’m also getting ACER Z1 series 200Hz IPS monitor to get rid of ASUS VG248QE.
I was hoping that , we will
I was hoping that , we will see amazing jump like difference between gtx 680 and 780 Ti. I really hope they stop releasing this nonsense Ti version of the flagship gpu’s. and I do hope these rumered scores are wrong.
🙂 and can’t wait to see AMD response. I own 970+680 and looking to upgrade with the next pascal HBM 2.0 gpu , hopefully this year.
The GP100 in the P100 is not
The GP100 in the P100 is not fully enabled and only has half the RAM it can have.
These 1080/1070 cards from
These 1080/1070 cards from Nvidia already seem to be just a minor spec bump from the last gen of graphics cards. Really disappointing. It will also be disappointing if their Async Compute performance also just gets a minor bump in performance given that these cards SHOULD have been built to exploit ALL of DX12/Vulcan API’s features. I’m not a fan of AMD but I sure hope that their performance numbers are better than this new gen of Nvidia cards because it is only through competition with AMD that we’ll see anything better come out from Nvidia. Same for Intel as well.