Performance, Pricing and Conclusion
Performance
To simulate a typical user upgrade from the 4-bay Drobo, I shut down our older unit (still with a set of 4x 4TB WD Reds installed), moved the pack of disks to the 5C, fired it up, and the array appeared as if I hadn't even switched the devices at all!
- Sequential performance of this 4-disc pack:
- 226 MB/s read and 204 MB/s write.
- I then shifted to dual redundancy mode:
- 225 MB/s read and 178 MB/s write.
- I then dropped back down to single redundancy and added a 6TB Red:
- 232 MB/s read and 216 MB/s write.
- Shifted to dual redundancy on the 5-disc pack:
- 220 MB/s read and 198 MB/s write.
- I then removed the mixed capacity pack and shifted to 5x 8TB WD Red:
- 226 MB/s read and 215 MB/s write.
- Shifted to dual redundancy:
- 229 MB/s read and 193 MB/s write.
ATTO run of the array (in dual redundancy mode):
Keep in mind that without a hot data cache present (as in the more expensive 5D and 5N), the 5C's strength comes in its straight line speed. Heavy random writes will not fare well here, as the primary purpose is the bulk storage of larger files and media. Do your edits on your internal drive prior to exporting / archiving to the Drobo 5C and you'll have a good experience.
As with the 3rd gen Drobo, we occasionally caught it shuffling metadata during some of the writes. This is not a normal condition unless you are particularly hard on your array:
Overall, performance was nearly identical to the 4-bay unit the 5C replaces, with one notable exception. Migration and rebuild times appeared to take nearly twice as long on this new unit. This may be something that can be corrected with a firmware update in the future, or it may be a limitation imposed by the new larger 64TB volume size. Since rebuilds occur in the background and data remains accessible, I don't consider this a significant issue at this time, but it is something to keep in mind.
Pricing
The Drobo 5C is available today at a list price of $349. This is the same MSRP as the 4-bay model this one replaces (which almost immediately sold at $267), so don’t be surprised if this new 5C drops in price a bit after launch. There is also a $50 discount to Drobo gen2 or gen3 owners until 11 OCT 2016 if purchased from the Drobo Store.
Conclusion:
Pros:
- Speed. Not much faster than the 4-bay Gen-3 part it replaces, but still reasonably quick.
- Superior out of box experience. Setup and configuration is dead simple.
- The same BeyondRAID technology that we could not break 7 years ago.
- Internal battery backup provides further protection of the array.
- New 64TB volume size offers future-proofing and simplifies setup (no need for multiple volumes with large disks)
- High quality stamped steel construction.
Cons:
- Occasional background activities can negatively impact write speeds.
- 64TB volume size appears to extend rebuild and migration times considerably.
Building on the winning low-cost formula of the third-gen 4-bay Drobo, the Drobo 5C brings back the extra bay seen in the 5D and 5N models, but at nearly half the cost. While the 5C offers USB Type-C connectivity, Drobo opted to go with USB 3.0 link. The 5Gbps link is not a bottleneck since the 5C is chipset / HDD speed limited to ~250 MB/s. Realizing that not all users have a Type-C connector on their system, a Type-C to Type-A cable is included. Those rare few with *only* Type-C connectivity will have to pick up an extra cable.
Speeds were good overall, with the 5C offering similar performance to the superseded 4-bay Drobo. 64TB volume support is a welcome addition, but comes at a cost of longer rebuild and migration times. BeyondRAID keeps all data available regardless of background activity, so the only real side-effect will be reduced write speeds during these periods.
The Drobo 5C is the best game in town when it comes to robust direct-attached storage.
With Drobo having a VP of Ops
With Drobo having a VP of Ops who previously was caught offering to bribe hardware sites for good reviews, it makes me wonder about them.
Just in case there is any
Just in case there is any doubt here, I was not offered anything above the typical pre-briefing and sample for testing. Same thing that happens with any other item we review. I've never had any interactions with Drobo that I would consider immoral.
Since this 5 bay DAS shows a
Since this 5 bay DAS shows a nice reduction in price, I wonder how long (or if ever) then 5 bay NAS will also see a price reduction.
As for the review, it does follow the great reviews I’m used to seeing from PCPer as a whole.
@ Allyn Would you recommend a DAS over a NAS? I’m trying to figure out where such a product fits. with NAS you can access it from an entire network… ok well I guess speed wise, 1GB limits to max 120is MB/s… kind of answered that myself 🙂
I do wonder, now that 2.5/5Gb nics are coming out, how soon Drobo will announce support.
And finally, Asus just released a “cheap – $250usd” Switch (2x10Gb + 8x1Gb). Wonder if 10Gb ports would be backwards compatible with 2.5/5 via some update.
Overall more speed the better. and having DAS speeds via NAS would be a welcomed improvement 🙂
The argument for DAS is when
The argument for DAS is when you want to have your mass storage closer to your main editing system, where it can enjoy the throughput and latency bonus of not having to pass over a gigabit network. If that system happens to be always-on, you can simply share the DAS out via that system, effectively making it into a NAS. One bonus there is that you are covered by the security updates on the host OS instead of having to ensure yet another box (NAS) is updated. You won't get the additional remote access bells and whistles seen on some dedicated NAS boxes, but much of that functionality can be replicated by applications run on the host.
Backwards compatibility for 2.5 and 5 Gbit will likely require new hardware, as the point of those lower grades is to use lower cost / lower power hardware to drive the copper.
Allyn,
Could you move drives
Allyn,
Could you move drives from a 5N to a 5C?
Can you potentially increase throughput by adding MSATA?
I will be plugging this into an USB 3.1 port on a Z170X-UD5 Mainboard.
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The 5N and 5C have competely
The 5N and 5C have competely different file formats. The N uses its own internal file system, while the C is directly mounted to the host (and uses a file system managed by the host PC).
Drobo has a migration guide here, complete with a matrix on what can move to what.
Just curious on the migration
Just curious on the migration you did for this test. Which Drobo did you migrate the disks FROM to the 5C?
I have a 5D and looking to move current disks to the newer 5C so that I can upgrade the 5D with new disks but Drobo’s migration matrix only lists migration from 5C to 5D/5Dt not the other way around.
Would appreciate any comments on this.
Just got my 5c yesturday, has
Just got my 5c yesturday, has 5x4tb WD red’s in it with 5.4tb used. Used ATTO just now i had as high as 260-270MB/s write speeds and seems maxed 230-240MB/s read.
My new drobo is quite slow
My new drobo is quite slow 60/90 mb/s (drives tested in a pc were 230/230). I’m using 2x8t seagate skyhawks. Any advice?
The enclosure is also very loud, and often starts to resonate and vibrate.
HHD’s where also quieter in a pc, in a drobo they have this grinding sound when working.
Does the 5C appear as an
Does the 5C appear as an external drive? network drive? or only accessible via the drobo app?
Does it have backup (snapshot) or file versioning? If the PC gets a crypto-ransomware, can it be use to rollback to an earlier date?
If you are considering one of
If you are considering one of the Drobo product range, you may also wish to consider the poor service from support and the slow transfer speeds associated with the device via Ethernet.
Current transfer rate for 8TB of data is 35MB/s which by estimation will take 3.8 days to move.
I could move the data in ~ an hour between 2 PC’s on my network.
My last (recent Dec2018) support request took a week to come back to the same response from the service team obviously them not reading the previous transcript or fully addressing the questions raised. In the end I gave up and fixed it myself as restoring the company data for it’s users is more important than waiting. (I didn’t lose any data but also not why you pay for Drobocare)
My current service request is now 22 hours out and still no response from the service team.
In my previous attempt to seek a resolution for a corrupt file system in the original request, I even reached out to the new CEO from the company that has purchased Drobo. He suggested that he would allocate someone to look into it but to date, not a peep from anyone at Drobo…
I have 2 x B810 units which may to my mind, may be a mistake.
Andrew