I know that many of you have been waiting months and years to put your money down for the Zen architecture and Ryzen processors from AMD. Well that day is finally here: AMD is opening pre-orders for Ryzen 7 1800X, Ryzen 7 1700X and Ryzen 7 1700 processors.
- Pre-order your Ryzen CPU! (Starting at 1pm ET)
- Ryzen 7 1800X – $499 – Amazon.com
- Ryzen 7 1700X – $399 – Amazon.com
- Ryzen 7 1700 – $329 – Amazon.com
- Amazon.com Ryzen Landing Page
- ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero – $254 – Amazon.com
- ASUS Prime X370 Pro – $169 – Amazon.com
- ASUS Prime B350-Plus – $99 – Amazon.com
- ASUS Prime B350M-A – $89 – Amazon.com
That’s the good news. The bad news? You’ll be doing it without the guidance of independent reviews.
For some of you, that won’t matter. And I can respect that! Getting your hands on Ryzen and supporting the disruption that it offers is something not only AMD fans have been preparing for, but tens of thousands of un-upgraded enthusiasts as well.
Sorry…AMD doesn't trust with slides it seems.
Proudly announced at our meeting with AMD this week, Zen not only met the 40% IPC goals it announced more than a year ago, but exceeded it! AMD claims more than a 52% increase in instructions per clock over Excavator and that is a conservative metric based on side conversations. This does a couple of things for the CPU market immediately: first it resets performance expectations for what Ryzen will offer when reviews do go live and second, it may actually put some worry into Intel.
AMD is allowing us to share baseline specifications of the processors, including clock speeds and core counts, as well as some selected benchmarks that show the Ryzen CPUs in an (obviously) favorable light.
Ryzen R7 1800X | Ryzen R7 1700X | Ryzen R7 1700 | Core i7-6900K | Core i7-6800K | Core i7-7700K | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Architecture | Zen | Zen | Zen | Broadwell-E | Broadwell-E | Kaby Lake |
Process Tech | 14nm | 14nm | 14nm | 14nm | 14nm | 14nm+ |
Cores/Threads | 8/16 | 8/16 | 8/16 | 8/16 | 6/12 | 4/8 |
Base Clock | 3.6 GHz | 3.4 GHz | 3.0 GHz | 3.2 GHz | 3.4 GHz | 4.2 GHz |
Turbo/Boost Clock | 4.0 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 3.6 GHz | 4.5 GHz |
Cache | 20MB | 20MB | 20MB | 20MB | 15MB | 8MB |
TDP | 95 watts | 95 watts | 65 watts | 140 watts | 140 watts | 91 watts |
Price | $499 | $399 | $329 | $1050 | $450 | $350 |
AMD is being extremely aggressive with these prices and with the direct comparisons. The flagship Ryzen 7 1800X will run you just $499, the 1700X at $399 and the 1700 at $329. For AMD’s own comparisons, they pitted the Ryzen 7 1800X against the Core i7-6900K from Intel, selling for more than 2x the cost. Both CPUs have 8 cores and 16 threads, the AMD Ryzen part has higher clock speeds as well. If IPC is equivalent (or close), then it makes sense that the 1800X would be a noticeably faster part. If you care about performance per dollar even more…you should be impressed.
For the other comparisons, AMD is pitting the Ryzen 7 1700X with 8 cores and 16 threads against the Core i7-6800K, with 6 cores and 12 threads. Finally, the Ryzen 7 1700, still with an 8C/16T setup, goes against the Core i7-7700K with just 4 cores and 8 threads.
Here is a summary of the performance comparisons AMD is allowing to be showed.
Though it's only a couple of benchmarks, and the results are highly siloed to show Ryzen in the best light, the results are incredibly impressive. In Cinebench R15, the Ryzen 1800X is 9% faster than the Core i7-6900K but at half the price; even the Ryzen R7 1700X is beating it. The 1700X is 34% faster than the Core i7-6800K, and the 1700 is 31% faster than the quad-core Core i7-7700K. The only single threaded result AMD gave us shows matching performance from the Core i7-6900K based on the Intel Broadwell architecture and the new Ryzen R7 1800X. This might suppress some questions about single threaded performance of Ryzen before reviews, but Broadwell is a couple generations old in Intel’s lineup, so we should expect Kaby Lake to surpass it.
The Handbrake benchmark results only included Core i7-7700K and the Ryzen R7 1700, with the huge advantage going to AMD. Not unexpected considering the 2x delta in core and thread count.
Finally, the performance per dollar conversion on the Cinebench scores is a substantially impactful visual. With a more than 2x improvement from the Ryzen 7 1800X to the Core i7-6900K, power-hungry users on a budget will have a lot to think about.
Sorry...AMD doesn't trust with slides it seems.
Clearly, AMD is very proud of the Ryzen processor and the Zen architecture, and they should be. This is a giant leap forward for the company compared to previous desktop parts. If you want to buy in today and pre-order, we have links below. If you’d rather wait for a full review from PC Perspective (or other outlets), you only have to wait until March 2nd.
- Pre-order your Ryzen CPU! (Starting at 1pm ET)
- Ryzen 7 1800X - $499 - Amazon.com
- Ryzen 7 1700X - $399 - Amazon.com
- Ryzen 7 1700 - $329 - Amazon.com
- Amazon.com Ryzen Landing Page
- ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero - $254 - Amazon.com
- ASUS Prime X370 Pro - $169 - Amazon.com
- ASUS Prime B350-Plus - $99 - Amazon.com
- ASUS Prime B350M-A - $89 - Amazon.com
Update Feb 22 @ 4:27am: An official Intel spokesman did respond to today's AMD news with the following:
“We take any competition seriously but as we’ve learned, consumers usually take a ‘wait and see’ approach on performance claims for untested products. 7th Gen Intel® Core™ delivers the best experiences, and with 8th Gen Intel Core and new technologies like Intel® Optane™ memory coming soon, Intel will not stop raising the bar.”
While nothing drastic, the Intel comment is interesting in a couple of ways. First, the fact that Intel is responding at all means that they are rattled to some degree. Second, mention of the 8th Gen Core processor series indicates that they want potential buyers to know that something beyond Kaby Lake is coming down the pipe, a break from Intel's normally stoic demeanor.
I don’t know how reliable the
I don’t know how reliable the TDP is going to be for Ryzen, at least for the auto boosting models who go as high as your cooling allows. Higher clocks mean higher watts consumed. There is a 140 TDP Wraith for a reason.
Of course the Wraith is 140W,
Of course the Wraith is 140W, it’s so you can OC the 65W 1700 out of the box to 4.0 and get 6900K performance for 1/3rd of the price ! 🙂
Amazon pages are up, but they
Amazon pages are up, but they only have bundles (super lame.) There are pre-orders up at other sites like Newegg and MicroCenter though.
“Update Feb 22 @ 4:27am: An
“Update Feb 22 @ 4:27am: An official Intel spokesman did respond to today’s AMD news with the following: bla bla bla..”
Is this what actually happened ?
“.. this last bit may explain why Intel PR sent out a last-minute “call us before you write” email to most of the press, but not SemiAccurate, after hours last night.”
amazon dropped the ball and
amazon dropped the ball and intel probably paid them to do it!
Ordered everything at newegg peace out intel scummy move!
“… While nothing drastic,
“… While nothing drastic, the Intel comment is interesting in a couple of ways. First, the fact that Intel is responding at all means that they are rattled to some degree. Second, mention of the 8th Gen Core processor series indicates that they want potential buyers to know that something beyond Kaby Lake is coming down the pipe, a break from Intel’s normally stoic demeanor. ”
Intel is rattled by the pricing and their PR product-announcement/reply/comment is just disgusting and arrogant. Intel does innovate adn release new tech, aka raisingthe bar. yea, they raised the bar on releasing technology in a piecemeal sort of way, kinda like daily bowel movements, their shit just keeps coming on schedule.
Yeah, because AMD pushed the
Yeah, because AMD pushed the industry forward with its continuous innovation rate… right? 😀
i give that semi-witty reply
i give that semi-witty reply a 4 out of 10.
LOL, pre-order before
LOL, pre-order before reviews. Classic.
You will find out soon why the only benchmarks being leaked out are not gaming related.
It is miracle that AMD
It is miracle that AMD managed to deliver ZEN without going via Kickstarter or Indigiogo 😉
100% true, Ryan would have
100% true, Ryan would have put up the bat signal by now if gaming was on par.
I don’t trust anything with
I don’t trust anything with AMD always some catch for half ass product
Protip: DO NOT pre-order
Protip: DO NOT pre-order ….wait for real benchmarks….warning you now.
http://i.imgur.com/4H7qCVI.pn
http://i.imgur.com/4H7qCVI.png
Don’t need to upgrade and
Don’t need to upgrade and poor reliability of past amd motherboards will have me watching from the sidelines.
I’m more interested in Xbox Scorpio.
I preordered Horizon Zero Dawn after the reviews that came in 2 weeks before Launch. How many companies have the balls to allow reviews 2 weeks before launch?
AMD doesn’t have balls that’s for sure.
Intel fanboys are hurt. They
Intel fanboys are hurt. They are in grief period.
Time will heal all pains.
Use Linux for fun and enjoy multi-tasking.
8 cores for the masses no 4 cores BS anymore.
Let the celebration begins!!!
Fan boys, a CPU is made of silicon. Accept it.
Amazon pre-order is
Amazon pre-order is up:
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-YD180XBCAEWOF-Ryzen-1800X-Processor/dp/B06W9JXK4G
Why is Asus charging 50
Why is Asus charging 50 dollars more for the same crosshair board they have for intel?
Great write up Ryan
I guess
Great write up Ryan
I guess we have been waiting a while for these parts and it looks as though it will be worth it. Looking forward to your full review of these CPU’s soon. AMD enthusiasts can start to get excited again.
Curious how far these Ryzen
Curious how far these Ryzen cpu’s can be overclocked, using air cooling, compared the Intel cpu counterparts.
Welp, since I used Amazon’s
Welp, since I used Amazon’s “bigthanks” discount I have Corsair Vengence LPX 16gb kit coming my way. I’m heavily leaning towards the 1700x. Any real reason to consider the 1800x? Seems the only difference is the base and turbo speeds. Seems not worth the extra $100.
Then what motherboard? I’ve had very good experiences with Gigabyte and leaning towards that. Any quick thoughts on MSI, Asus, ASRock, or Biostar? Will be an X370 board, just likely not their respective top-tier.
I would say its best that we
I would say its best that we all wait for the real world benchmarks. We have all been stung before with games and components!
I hear the guys over at esport source are looking to test all the latest gen CPUs over coming weeks.
I’m seriously disappointed
I’m seriously disappointed with Zen as a architecture. Don’t get me wrong. On paper and some benchmarks it looks interestingly good, but from workstation point of view it’s like X58 refresh.
Ryzen is cheaper than Intel, because it’s much, much cheaper from technological point of view. It doesn’t offer quad-channel memory, it doesn’t offer 40 PCI-e lanes, it doesn’t offer 10 SATA ports. I haven’t seen a single motherboard with 6 or 7 x8/x16 slots. From my point of view it’s mainly for gamers. I was considering switch from X99, but until I can simply transfer all cards and hardware directly just by plugging them in, it’s a no-option for me.
That’s why intel is so much ahead. Even if it is more (too-)expensive and they perform socket-circus every year or two. But you can do things which Ryzen will never let you do it. I wonder what Naples will bring except server grade pricing. Darn you AMD, waited so long and you delivered literally LGA1366 refresh (PCI-e-wise) 9 years later…
All hope in Asus that they’ll release some WS board with bunch of PLX chips.
I’d hate to say it but x99 is
I’d hate to say it but x99 is now a forgone era. To get x99-level CPU performance at 1/2 the price more than makes up for giving up quad channel memory or 10 SATA ports. Because most gamers aren’t trying to build servers. Even enthusiast builders aren’t really using all that x99 has to offer, especially considering nvidia’s current limits on driver support for SLi and the broader concern of developers making their games for the highest compatibility. AMD did a superb job in bringing this level performance within reach of gamers who don’t want to spend a whole system’s budget on just the processor.
Ryzen is the consumer
Ryzen is the consumer branding of the Zen Micro-architecture so wait for the actual Zen server variants and server motherboards to arrive before you attempt to comment on any workstation usage. The AM4(consumer motherboards) are not what will be used for any of AMD’s Server/Workstation/HPC CPU variants and Zen in the HPC market is going to rely more on being paired with Vega GPU accelerators to make up for any FP deficiencies in the Zen Micro-architecture’s FP performance relative to Intel’s Xeon SKUs in that HPC market segement.
AMD’s Workstation/Server/HPC Motherboards and Zen/Naples and other CPU SKUs are scheduled for 2H of 2017 and will not be using AM4/Ryzen consumer variant Motherboard/CPUs.
Wow!!!
That R7 1700 is the
Wow!!!
That R7 1700 is the real take away here!!! 8 cores, 16 threads, a hair less cinebench multithread performance (1410 vs 1474) than Intel 6900k…for less than 1/3rd the price AND less than HALF the tdp?!?!?!
IN SA NI TY.
Way to go AMD!
* TDP while executing NOP
* TDP while executing NOP instructions
😉
Keep calm and don’t get
Keep calm and don’t get bitten by the hype, the Core i7 7700K which is priced at $339 is expected to be faster in gaming. And the advertised TDP of AMD’s processors has been quite “conservative” in the last decade compared to real world measurement.
Lets see what it can do on March 2
Really it’s only a quad core
Really it’s only a quad core while the Ryzen 1700 8 core only costs $329 and is unlocked also. I’m waiting to see just how far this 1700 can be manually overclocked before looking at the 1700X. But $329 for twice as many cores for some workloads is a great deal. That single core IPC metric with most games able to go multi-core may not matter as much. At least with 8 cores if the game needs 4 then there is still 4 more to keep any windows 10 bloat out of the way of the 4 cores that the game is using. The i7 7700K will still have to let its 4 cores do double duty with the OS and what about any gameplay video streaming twitch/others.
8 cores come in handy for many gaming/other workloads.
Frankly, Windows bloat is a
Frankly, Windows bloat is a practical non-issue for any modern CPU, that thing even runs on a 8-year-old Netbook (single core + HT), and I find the streaming scenario a bit contrived when most if not all gamers are running GPUs (integrated or discreet) with build-in media encoders.
But that stems from the same issue Intel marketing has run into with their HEDT platform for many years, coming up with scenarios that both show significant gains for extra cores beyond 4 and are not so outlandish to be dismissed outright. (the good old compressing files while playing games or running Cinebench chestnut)
You forgot that DX12 and
You forgot that DX12 and Vulkan will happily use more than 4 cores when needed for games so enjoy your overpriced Intel cores but do not expect others to follow. CPU cores are the most overpriced part of computing and GPUs offer much better value with their Shader/Cores numbering in the thousands. AMD’s CPU SKUs will offer the best price/performance metric to those that may just use the extra cores for gaming and other uses so your gaming only justification will not hold any meaning for many that game and do other tasks with their PCs. Those Extra 4 Zen core will come in handy and that’s what people will be buying from AMD. So that 8 core Zen 7 1700 SKU at less than what i7 7700k 4 core cost will be a better Price/performance vale for many.
Intel’s fat margins are history and the new games/gaming engine and DX12/Vulkan graphics API ecosystems will make that single core IPC metric less of a factor in gaming. A lot of the really latency affected gaming functionality will be moved to the GPU/s via the new graphics APIs ability to offload compute onto the the GPU. So for heavily latency affected code in VR gaming there will be more GPU usage in that area. AMD’s 8 core systems will also be very popular for any virtual machine environment abstraction of OSs running under a hypervisor managed facility with users running more than one OS on their system and the more cores the better for that usage.
Remember that Vega’s new virtualization IP will allow for some to build home gaming servers where CPU cores and GPU cores are divided up among individual applications/games. And each application or game getting its own logical GPU slice of a physical GPU and its own complement of CPU cores all for each game or application to have all their own. So AMD’s 8 core CPUs and Vega GPU/s can be virtually partitioned off to service multiple instances of games or applications running from a single PC/Server. Those 8 CPU cores at a lower price than an Intel 4 core SKUs will definitely be better for any home gaming server types of usage. Zen and Vega will be a great pairing for many more uses than Intel’s limited/overpriced offerings.
I don’t know what you’re
I don’t know what you’re muttering on about.
So, at least we have that in common.
So when will actual reviews
So when will actual reviews be published?