The real battle begins
AMD is finally releasing the Ryzen 5 processors today to take on Intel’s Core i5 line.
When AMD launched the Ryzen 7 processors last month to a substantial amount of fanfare and pent up excitement, we already knew that the Ryzen 5 launch would be following close behind. While the Ryzen 7 lineup was meant to compete with the Intel Core i7 Kaby Lake and Broadwell-E products, with varying levels of success, the Ryzen 5 parts are priced to go head to head with Intel's Core i5 product line.
AMD already told us the details of the new product line including clock speeds, core counts and pricing, so there is little more to talk about other than the performance and capabilities we found from our testing of the new Ryzen 5 parts. Starting with the Ryzen 5 1600X, with 6 cores, 12 threads and a $249 price point, and going down to the Ryzen 5 1400 with 4 cores, 8 threads and a $169 price point, this is easily AMD's most aggressive move to date. The Ryzen 7 1800X at $499 was meant to choke off purchases of Intel's $1000+ parts; Ryzen 5 is attempting to offer significant value and advantage for users on a budget.
Today we have the Ryzen 5 1600X and Ryzen 5 1500X in our hands. The 1600X is a 6C/12T processor that will have a 50% core count advantage over the Core i5-7600K it is priced against but a 3x advantage in thread count because of Intel's disabling of HyperThreading on Core i5 desktop processors. The Ryzen 5 1500X has the same number of cores as the Core i5-7500 it will be pitted against, but 2x the thread count.
How does this fare for AMD? Will budget consumers finally find a solution from the company that has no caveats?
Specifications
Though we have already seen these details from AMD's release last month, it's a good idea to go over the details once again.
| Ryzen 5 1600X | Ryzen 5 1600 | Ryzen 5 1500X | Ryzen 5 1400 | Core i5-7600K | Core i5-7600 | Core i5-7500 | Core i5-7400 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Architecture | Zen | Zen | Zen | Zen | Kaby Lake | Kaby Lake | Kaby Lake | Kaby Lake |
| Process Tech | 14nm | 14nm | 14nm | 14nm | 14nm+ | 14nm+ | 14nm+ | 14nm |
| Cores/Threads | 6/12 | 6/12 | 4/8 | 4/8 | 4/4 | 4/4 | 4/4 | 4/4 |
| Base Clock | 3.6 GHz | 3.2 GHz | 3.5 GHz | 3.2 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 3.5 GHz | 3.4 GHz | 3.0 GHz |
| Turbo/Boost Clock | 4.0 GHz | 3.6 GHz | 3.7 GHz | 3.4 GHz | 4.2 GHz | 4.1 GHz | 3.8 GHz | 3.5 GHz |
| Cache | 16MB | 16MB | 16MB | 8MB | 6MB | 6MB | 6MB | 6MB |
| Memory Support | DDR4-2400 Dual Channel |
DDR4-2400 Dual Channel |
DDR4-2400 Dual Channel |
DDR4-2400 Dual Channel |
DDR4-2400 Dual Channel |
DDR4-2400 Dual Channel |
DDR4-2400 Dual Channel |
DDR4-2400 Dual Channel |
| TDP | 95 watts | 65 watts | 65 watts | 65 watts | 91 watts | 65 watts | 65 watts | 65 watts |
| Price | $249 | $219 | $189 | $169 | $239 | $229 | $204 | $189 |
Clearly the Ryzen 5 1600X and 1600 have a big advantage in core count and thread count over the Core i5 processors. With 6-cores and 12-threads on both of those parts, any application or workload that can take advantage of multi-threaded configuration will see an immediate advantage on the AMD hardware. With 50% more cores and 3x the thread count, programs like Handbrake and Blender will excel on Ryzen 5 over Core i5.
The Ryzen 5 1500X is priced at $189 and competes directly with the Core i5-7500 and Core i5-7400, the most interesting of which is the 7500. Both have 4 cores but only the Ryzen has SMT enabled, giving the AMD hardware an advantage in any multi-threaded capable software.
B350 Platform
Though this review is not going to have a big focus on the chipset and motherboard itself, it is worth noting at the low-cost B350 motherboards that AMD foresees being paired with the Ryzen 5 processors have a feature advantage over the Intel equivalent B250 chipset motherboards. AMD built this chipset to support overclocking in an identical manner as the X370 chipset, with the only major difference being support for a single GPU rather than dual GPUs. On the contrary, the Intel B250 motherboards do NOT support overclocking; that includes both multiplier and CPU overclocking as well as support for memory speeds over 2400 MHz.
For price equivalent motherboard and platforms, that differnce is meaningful, giving consumers more flexibility and capability in their new system with AMD.





As excited I was about this
As excited I was about this the tanking Canadian dollar still makes the slightly older Intel i5’s a more affordable option.
AMD just killed all locked
AMD just killed all locked Intel chips.
You should be able to get a great deal now in the used market.
Disappointed that the $169 R5
Disappointed that the $169 R5 1400 isn’t on display here. That is likely the real bargain chip – like the R7 1700.
Yeah – the only useful “new
Yeah – the only useful “new and cheap” Intel chip at this point is the Pentium G4560 at $60.. Intel’s $80-110 don’t really offer much for the money, and as you approach $150 the Ryzen 5 is a real bargain..
I think the AdoredTV video
I think the AdoredTV video put it into focus best. You would have to be bat guano crazy to buy a quad core 4 thread CPU. Games are getting pegged at 100% on all 4 cores with nothing left already. While AMD has 8 threads and 12 threads and room for optimization to further improve.
People dont swap CPU’s anywhere near as fast as say a GPU card. So if you buy 4 threads with Intel now you’re stuck for years with that.
Did you do any CCX testing
Did you do any CCX testing with the 1500x part?
Is it 2x2c/4t or just 1 module of 4c/8t?
1500X is reportedly 2 CCX
1500X is reportedly 2 CCX with 2c/4t disabled per module.
That is what I heard but if
That is what I heard but if you look at the L3 Cache you see that it is cut in half vs the 6 & 8 core.
This makes me think that there is only 1 chip.
FYI you have the 1500x listed
FYI you have the 1500x listed twice in power consumption with 2 different results.
Fixed. Thanks!
Fixed. Thanks!
no reason to buy these at
no reason to buy these at this price point … I was waiting to see Ryzen 5 results before I upgraded my existing skylake i3 to i5.
Why would you have done
Why would you have done anything other than that given you already have a system set up around Intel? I’m skeptical that was ever seriously on the cards, unless you had unrealistically high expectations.
there’s a shitload of missing
there’s a shitload of missing data on the graphs, pathetic.
also, no mention of the R5 beating the R7 on at least one benchmark by a significant margin.
Please wait. Intel and Nvidia
Please wait. Intel and Nvidia are reviewing his documents and “fixing” any typographical errors.
All AMD with no
All AMD with no monopolies!
All AMD with no monopolies!
All AMD with no monopolies!
Some Vulkan/Linux testing also, so no to M$ also!
Dual RX 480s, and RX 580s and Ryzen/AM4 and Linux/Vulkan and no vendor lock-in!
tomb raider DX11 doesn’t have
tomb raider DX11 doesn’t have the DX12 issues.
since there is no graphical difference, it makes no sense to run DX12 in its current state, i thought you guys were up to date on PC hardware or do you live in a vacuum?
That’s a combination of the
That’s a combination of the Blue Flu(I’m too sick to benchmark fully/call us before you review) and the Green Goblin(The Goblin Manual), but really it’s the brown envelopes with the prize inside from the BlueGreen meanies.
Oh how it screams!
“NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB”
“NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8GB” and there has to be some DX12 and RX 580 testing(Vulkan also) with even dual RX 580s/RX 580 testing for that “Ryzen of the tomb raider” sort of benchmarking testing with some ALL AMD syetem builds.
This can be done on RX 480s/RX 480 als, but some all AMD gaming benchmarking Please.
I want to see more dual GPU, AMD and Nvidia(where enabled) testing also.
Look like the 1600x and the
Look like the 1600x and the 1500x might be worth upgrading to from my 4690K for video editing.
Just wait for that AMD
Just wait for that AMD Generic Encapsulated Software Architecture (AGESA) update coming in May and targeting memory overclocking. And really with the 1700 non X version overclocking to around the same level as an 1800X, maybe that Ryzen 5 1600 NON X is the sleeper hit for the Ryzen 5 series Price/Performance leader-board. I’d go for the 1700 and maybe get that golden sample for video encoding and those AMD tweaks and gaming/other software optimizations are incoming! More Benchmarking across all of AMD’s Ryzen offerings are in order as the OS, games, gaming engine, video encoding, other optimizations arrive.
AMD and the OS/entire Software market will be tweaking for Ryzen and Zen/Naples, and the lower cost Zen server variants, over the following months.
Be sure to keep score of all the online websites and focus on the tests that any website fails to perform. Because what any website fails to test says much more about that website than any other “Objective” testing claims. Keep Score and let them Know that you are keeping score.
Your benchmark results are
Your benchmark results are not in line with what others get. Also you are benching software that no one else is using on other review sites. Seems you guys are shilling for Intel….I was wise to remove you guys from my list of review sites.
I took time to write a
I took time to write a lengthy comment but it was deleted. don’t make mention that the DX12 ROTR has performance deltas that don’t exist in the DX11 version. this site is funded by dozens of Intel/Nvidia “Patreons”
That “Ryzen of the Tomb
That “Ryzen of the Tomb Raider” reviewer, I hope he does some Ryzen 5 testing also, with Dual RX 480s, abd the Dual RX 580s for the Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 series SKU.
Ryzen and Radeon or bust, to the websites that we can no longer trust! All this Nvidia ONLY testing needs stop.
Test and retest every month for AMD Zen/Radeon SKUs with each of the new month’s optimizations and AGESA update. Full CPU/AM4 UEFI/BIOS version numbers listed along with driver version numbers. FULL data disclosure and No Sloppy Joes. Keep score and let them know that you are keeping score.
Thanks Ryan and Crew for the
Thanks Ryan and Crew for the excellent review, and all of the excellent content every day.
Go Big Blue!
Big Blue is IBM, but there
Big Blue is IBM, but there appears to be a Blue Flu in regards to some Full Ryzen testing on many websites and scores need to be tallied. Intel(Nefarious Blue-Blob) has deep pockets, deep pockets! Too sick to test fully(None are buying that) Keep score folks, this is the real time to keep score of every online review website, AMD is competative again but in the past the fix was in, so keep score now more than ever.
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“IBM”
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Is the civ 5 ai graph
Is the civ 5 ai graph correct? You mention “the 1500X outperforms the Core i5-7500 by a noticeable gap.” but the 7500 is shown as nearly 10 fps faster then the 7700k which doesn’t sound right.
he’s probably talking about
he’s probably talking about the graphics test.
Correct, I was. I’ll add a
Correct, I was. I'll add a reference to the other graph shortly. Thanks for the heads up!
Would love to see how ryzen
Would love to see how ryzen work with dx12 with amd cards. Seen another video showing nvidia dx12 stuff breaks with ryzen.
i wrote a lengthy comment
i wrote a lengthy comment about this, but it was promptly deleted. please don’t ask too hard, it makes them look bad.
#Ryzen-of-the-Tomb-Raider
#Ryzen-of-the-Tomb-Raider says it all.
Dual RX 480s and maybe dual RX 580s for some Ryzen/Radeon testing please.
DX12/Vulkan and Gaming on Radeon needs more tseting for games/gaming engines.
Are the R5 1400 and 7600k
Are the R5 1400 and 7600k quad channel?
this ryzen platform doesn’t
this ryzen platform doesn’t support quad channel afaik, however they’re probably running quad on Intel, adding that better RAM for ryzen helps… and then using the 2400mhz sticks. this is a joke, thank you for pointing out another flaw.
They should fix their table.
They should fix their table.
Why didn’t use the latest
Why didn’t use the latest version of handbrake v1.0.7?
Who made these graphs?
Who made these graphs? They’re incredibly hard to read and make no sense. Why the random positions for the CPUs and why are both AMD and Intel the same color?
I agree. It is difficult to
I agree. It is difficult to tell what is going on. Looks like quick review with limited time.
Will ddr5 and ryzen finally
Will ddr5 and ryzen finally compete with consoles. If amd is recommending using higher speed memory to unlock performance shouldn’t we just wait for the performance to be revealed.
I dont always laugh but when
I dont always laugh but when I do I read PCPER reviews.
Be sure to always keep score
Be sure to always keep score of each and every online review, what was omitted says a lot more about things in the end!
Keep Score, Keep Score, and Keep Score of the reviews.
Keep score of what sites re-review and how often the re-reviews correspond with the arrival of essetial AGESA updates and OS/Game/gaming engine optimizations.
Some Ryzen/Radeon testing is needed also.
Nvidia has issues with more
Nvidia has issues with more than 4 cores under DX12 and that’s why people game with DX11 in such cases.
Half of the reviewers know this but the other half doesn’t…
If the point of testing games
If the point of testing games with a GTX 1080 is to prevent GPU bottle-necking and get at the “true” performance of the CPU, then why are you testing games in DX12 where Nvidia drivers are known to be an issue?
You should be testing Ryzen processors in DX11 with Nvidia graphics cards, or test DX12 games with crossfire RX 480s. These DX 12 benchmarks are effectively penalizing Ryzen for bad Nvidia drivers and not highlighting Ryzen’s true performance (i.e. you’re testing a bottleneck, the thing that you were trying to avoid).
to be fair PcPer isn’t
to be fair PcPer isn’t completely bad it has some smart people like Brian Moltavano (don’t know how to spell it) and a couple of their other guys. it’s just people like Ryan Shrout that have no business doing reviews or technical analysis. if you watch a few of their videos, you can see that he struggles with the more advanced subject matter and gets constantly corrected throughout most videos. you can see it in his “i haven’t slept in a week” face, he’s ashamed to be the face of PcPer.
“Brian” Moltavano? I assume
“Brian” Moltavano? I assume you’re talking about their resident Storage specialist.
His name is Allyn Malventano.
Somewhat unusual spelling I suppose, but that helps me remember it.
Yeah, that certainly made me
Yeah, that certainly made me chuckle. I'm used to the last name being butchered, but completely changing the first name is a new one on me 🙂
I thought it was Byron
I thought it was Byron Malwaretano