The Inquirer linked to a paper AMD just posted, which details what they call the "Intel Tax". It highlights a variety reasons not to chose an Intel based server, including the dozens of SKUs to chose from, spanning four different metal codes, and five different series. They also point out that if you want more that 28 cores you will need to buy additional processors, as well as needing to spend a large amount on upgrades to Gold or Platinum branded CPUs if you want to use the latest memory technology.
No wonder DigiTimes is predicting Intel's market share in the server room may fall below 90% in the coming years.
"As such, AMD's attack on Intel comes across as a bit petty. But then we don't feel too sorry for Intel as one of its top execs launched a big attack on Nvidia a day or so earlier; goodness knows what's in the water over in the US."
Here is some more Tech News from around the web:
- AMD's Navi 20 GPUs could come with Nvidia-rivalling ray-tracing chops @ The Inquirer
- ARM In the Datacenter Isn't Dead Yet @ Slashdot
- It's coooming: Windows 10 October 2018 Update adoption slows ahead of the next release @ The Register
- Kepler may be dead but its data keeps on giving, thanks to AI: Two alien worlds found in archives @ The Register
- Computer Tips & Tricks Everyone Should Know @ TechSpot
- Today, WarCraft 1 & 2 get their first-ever digital launch—and it’s on GOG @ Ars Technica
- Can You Live Without the WS2812? @ Hackaday
lisa, i hope this is coming
lisa, i hope this is coming from a position of strength
lisa, stop selling your fucking stock
i’m not
Look at the server market
Look at the server market share AMD had in the height of Opteron days, around 23%, and the Opteron cores where no where near as performant as the first generation Zen cores. So now there is Epyc/Rome to consider alongside first generation Epyc/Naples and the Zen-2 core improvments at 7nm! And AMD is using a process node from TSMC that’s ahead of Intel’s current process node and that’s a first also.
So put that information all in place and AMD will be in a position to best its Opteron figuers with not much problems over the next few years. Remember that Opteron’s Price/Performance metrics is what earned AMD that around 23% server market share and the Epyc/Naples and Epyc/Rome Price/Performance pressures are even going to be more attractive than Opteron’s!
Look at Epyc/Rome MB-Platform’s 128 PCIe 4.0 lanes and that’s really going to put the pressure on Intel and the Cloud Services customers are looking at that also just like they did when adopting Epyc/Naples and its 128 PCIe 3.0 lanes.
AMD’s actual market share percentages can only be measured by the single and dual MB socket market as AMD currently does not have any 4 socket SKUs. AMD is still getting more cores per socket simply by increasing the numbers of Zen-2 8 core die/chiplets on the MCM. So any dual socket customers can increase their CPU core density simply by replacing an Epyc/Naples CPU with a Epyc/Rome CPU/BIOS Upgrade and that’s going to allow for some clients to upgrade without having to replace the server’s motherboard if that’s what the client wants.
Once Epyc/Rome begins shipping in volume AMD can price reduce its Epyc/Naples offerings to fruther erode Intel’s lower end server offerings’ attractiveness. AMD can also introduce higher clocked Epyc/Naples variants and create more higher end Epyc/Naples segements for more revenue potential.
AMD’s newer, released Nov 2018, high-frequency EPYC 7371 processor is an example of where AMD can still create more value at a higher ASP with its first generation Epyc/Naples offerings. If I were AMD I’d try and create an even higher clocked line of Epyc/Naples single socket “P” variants and try and win more Graphics Workstation Business with first generation Epyc/Naples based higher clocked options.
Epyc/Naples can still be of use to AMD as a value server segemented offering or even enhansed like the 7371 with higher clocked offerings and fill out more of the value based server market segement while Epyc/Rome goes for the High End/Higher Priced market segement. There is no reason that AMD can not get more out if that GF/Samsung 14nm process node especially with some higher clocked SKUs that can target the Graphics Workstation market.
AMD’s 7nm+ Zen-3 based Epyc/Milan CPUs already have a client(DOE) in the Perlmutter Supercomputer built by Cray and is based on their upcoming Shasta architecture which is planned to utilize Zen-3 based Epyc/Naples SKUs.
So for sure AMD’s is back in the Server/HPC market across 3 gererations if you include the planned Perlmutter Supercomputer.
Ok, this is epyc.
Ok, this is epyc.
I think Intel and AMD are
I think Intel and AMD are meant for people who are into the industry for many years now. But for students who generally are low on money should learn Linux OS like CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu etc. and buy a server based on ARM Processors which also consumes much less electricity as compared to AMD or Intel processors.