Although AMD’s own cards are the focus of attention this weekend, the company’s partners are also ready with some RX Vega announcements of their own. ASUS today announced four new cards based on the highest-tier Vega 64 design:
- ASUS RX Vega64 Water Cooled Edition
- ASUS RX Vega64 Air Cooled Edition
- ROG Strix RX Vega64 OC Edition
- ROG Strix RX Vega64
The first two cards, the non-Strix models, feature AMD’s corresponding reference design for the air and water-cooled models, while incorporating support for both ASUS’s GPU Tweak II software and XSplit Gamecaster.
The Strix models will feature a custom triple fan ASUS cooler, RGB lighting with Aura Sync support, and two “VR-friendly” HDMI ports (the reference RX Vega design only has one). ASUS has yet to announce base or boost clocks for the ROG Strix RX Vega64. See below for complete specifications:
ASUS RX Vega64 Air and Water Cooled editions will launch on August 14th. ASUS states “early September” availability for the ROG Strix models. Pricing was not disclosed as of the date of this article’s publication.
Linus from linustech
Linus from linustech mentioned that the Vega 56 is a 150w part.
And from the leak it seem to compete directly with a GTX 1070, assuming its had Volta level features.
AMD might be able to capture some market share if they can show Vega technology advances is indeed valuable.
They really need to list the
They really need to list the ROP/TMU counts on Vega 56, and folks need to be all Bart and Lisa Simpson in the back seat with: Are We There with the ROP/TMU counts YET?, Are We There with the ROP/TMU counts YET?, Are We There with the ROP/TMU counts YET?, Are We There with the ROP/TMU counts YET?…
“Linus from linustech
“Linus from linustech mentioned that the Vega 56 is a 150w part.”
AFAICT that is what AMD claim for the GPU itself, the “board power” is listed at 210W for Vega 56. (compared to 150 W “maximum graphics card power” for the 1070 according to NVidia)
Yes and when Nvidia trys the
Yes and when Nvidia trys the coin mining hash workloads those extra compute resources in AMD’s GPU SKUs come in handy. So AMD’s GPUs are going to use more power with their more compute enabled hardware. The long term question is what will the VR games industry do with AMD’s extra async compute and that includes the regular games as the games industry starts to fully move over to DX12/Vulkan graphics APIs.
Maybe the review industry as a whole can stop with the obsfucation and list ASIC power along side total PCI/Card power(ASIC power included).
I’m sure that after a few quarters of Epyc/Radeon Pro WX/Radeon instinct sales that some more revenues will be there for AMD to design a gaming only focused GPU micro-arch. But for now the funds are just not there for any Nvidia style compute gimping and TMU/ROP pimping.
The aftermarket cards will be
The aftermarket cards will be the real deciding factor if gamers can get them over miners. Real cooling and performance numbers.
Maybe I’m crazy but I much
Maybe I’m crazy but I much prefer the reference cooler.
I have a 480 strix, its great at idle as no fan spins.(reason I got it) But under load you get massive amount of heat blown on the motherboard and inside the case. raising all your temps, needing more case cooling, more noise.
Only way around this is to have massive amount of fans to take all that super hot air out.
I also played with a reference RX 480, and it was great.
About zero heat spread inside the case, and no heat blown on motherboard components or toward the CPU. Lower the clock a few percent, adjust the voltage and it was quieter overall then the strix. (and much lower temps)
I wish asus and else would create triple slot cooler that are 100 exhaust. If not, I will need to stay with reference coolers.
I don’t mind my Reference RX
I don’t mind my Reference RX 480, but I understand why people don’t mind the aftermarket cooler designs. Most people’s computer cases are massive and have entirely too much airflow anyway, so it really is a non-issue having heat released into the case.
Now some more Redeon Vega FE
Now some more Redeon Vega FE testng is in order, unless there are already RX Vega gaming SKUs to be benchmarked. So all you Radeon Vega FE owners get some new benchmarks out there for gaming and compute workloads on the Vega FE, Blender 3D rendering benchmarks, and be sure to undervolt and underclock them FE puppies for those that want to save on power usage on those long animation rendering runs.
“AMD today is announcing the latest update to their Radeon Pro Hardware and Software, which brings with it enhanced features designed to fully take advantage of the company’s new high-performance Vega graphics micro-architecture. Namely, AMD has announced the Radeon Pro WX 9100, the Radeon Pro SSG, and Radeon Vega Frontier Edition (already launched) along with new Radeon Pro Software for the same.” (1)
(1)
“AMD Announces Radeon Pro Update With Vega Support”
https://www.techpowerup.com/235649/amd-announces-radeon-pro-update-with-vega-support
If history is any indication
If history is any indication I’ll be more excited to see what Sapphire has to offer.
https://sapphirenation.net/sapphire-radeon-vega/
Those official benchmarks on
Those official benchmarks on the sapphire site show Vega pegged at 30% better then a Fury X.
So it seem AMD made absolutely zero progress in term of architecture over the 2015 Fiji. It might actually be bit slower clock for clock.
For gaming workloads that 30%
For gaming workloads that 30% may be only partly true, the indipendent benchmarks will tell the most, and Vega’s micro-arch is for sure not all about gaming only workloads.
P.S. Only some gamers are fixated on a GPU’s gaming only performance metrics, and a sale of a Vega GPU SKU for other than purely gaming reasons still counts as a sale for revenues into AMD’s overall corporate revenues. Gamers are really owed nothing from either Nvidia or AMD as both companies need other revenue sources besides gaming only to really grow!
Between Vega 64 and the GTX 1080 is going to be a contest of the best of the low part of the Highest to Loweest frame rate variances, and higher lows equates to smoother gaming performance overall with less noticable changes in frame rates over certian time frame in a game’s play.
Maybe with those Epyc revenues rolling in AMD can more fully fund RTG to get some gaming only GPU SKUs taped out for the total FPS freaks that need the bragging rights and the epeen boost of one upping the competition. But the funds just were not here for AMD this time around. Maybe wait a few months for some driver/gaming software Finewine(TM) and RX Vega’s performance will always improve over time.
With that kind of circular
With that kind of circular and backwards arguments, you must be a bona-fide mental contortionist!
Gamers do not matter at all,
Gamers do not matter at all, so who really cares as there is more growth potential in the professional markets for both AMD and Nvidia. No sane computung company should need to ever again be so dependent on the fickle consumer/gaming markets and both Nvidia and AMD need to focus on where the real revenue growth is. JHH over at Nvidia is touting automotive computing and control systems and growing those revenues, ditto for Nvidia’s Compute oriented GPU SKUs. AMD needs Vega for that extra compute to complement its Epyc CPU SKUs in the server/workstation/HPC markets and plenty of revenues from the profesional high margin market revenue stream.
FPS metrics above all else be damned and let the games developers try and work more at half percision and use some clever tricks to keep the color palette from degrading. But the gaming market is not the total future for the GPU makers any more, the future is more GPGPU and GPUs for all sorts of compute workloads.
Really GPUs and that FPS metric and the fragile egos of the fanboys who need to get a life outside of PC gaming. AMD has been selling out of its mainstream GPU SKUs and probably will have no problems Selling Vega to any and all that will use Vega for whatever usage its good for. AMD’s stockholders do not care much as long as AMD’s revenue growth is in the upwards direction and their stock/equity value is going up. Investors can look past any profit figures as long as the stock/equity vales of AMD is going up to make their investments produce any net extra value.